On Tuesday 14 December 2004 01:03, Siegfried Goeschl wrote:

> thinking along Avalon component reuse with different Avalon containers
> .... who is actually making changes and release of
> avalon-framework-[api|impl] nowadays?

Noone !
When Avalon was operational, even changes to the documentation what 
constituted 4.2 container compliance in respect of constructors, resulted in 
a storm I haven't seen before. IIRC, Leo Simons even managed to prove (at 
least to himself) that the change in the docs would make an incompatible 
change to components that tried to be compatible with many containers.

> I checked out http://wiki.apache.org/avalon/AvalonContextSurvey and this
> is the point where the various Avalon containers are really ehmm
> improvable.. Each container has its own ideas about naming the entries
> of the context and there is no "exists()" to facilitate querying the
> context apart from catching the exceptions when you are plainly wrong.
> Not a big deal but I'm just curious ....

In my personal opinion, you are absolutely right. However, it was not 
political feasible 6 months ago to try to make such unifications from the 
specifications point of view, and I don't think that has changed much.
You instead end up of having to write components that works in many 
containers, i.e. the headache is moved to the component author instead of the 
container author.
To achieve that you need to stay away from context entries and service lookups 
that are more complex than a single component by classname.

The most capable of the containers, Merlin, is no longer actively developed as 
an Avalon container. We have decided in Metro to evolve the AF4 contract 
separately, and keep runtime compatibility against the Merlin specification.


Cheers
Niclas
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