On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 11:33 +0100, Siegfried Goeschl wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > 1) Original Motivation for YAAFI > > 1.1) A few months ago I worked on a JSP/Struts web application for a > customer and they needed to integrate a few external services over the > time. I decided to go with Avalon components but I got frustrated with > the various containers (Excalibur, Merlin), my inability to get them > running and the amount of additional dependencies. The problem was not > my frustration as external consultant (I get paid for that) but my > customer would have plainly recjected the Avalon approach if adds too > much complexity (they devil you don't know). To cover my a** I coded a > minimal Avalon container over night.
I agree. You should be able to setup a container in a matter of minutes. It should be simple to make simple things. > > 1.2) In my own company we have a Turbine application and a few services > which could have been contributed years ago but the Turbine Service > Framework is convoluted due to the monolithic approach of Turbine. We > found out that the only stuff we used from Turbine were a few services > and our own stuff. And we are sort of stuck to an old version of Turbine > - well, not a big deal but we would have to migrate our own services. Or > we take the Fulcrum approach which would fit nicely .... Turbine evolved into a huge mass of code with no defined role or objective. In my opinion Turbine should be a minimal framework with : - A pipeline - Security an error handling That's it. We use Turbine on my company too. but all services are disable (except the core). What I really like about turbine is the way you can organize your page with screens, layouts and navigations ! > And I would appreciate some sort of cross-project cooperation to achieve > the following long-term goals > > +) ensure that the available Avalon services (Excalibur, Fulcrum, Xingu) > run with Fortress and YAAFI I can setup Xingu to use YAAFI. right now we are using Fortress. > > Cheers, > > Siegfried Goeschl Cheers ! -- Leandro Rodrigo Saad Cruz CTO - InterBusiness Tecnologia e Servi�os SiteDaFesta : www.sitedafesta.com.br OJB : db.apache.org/ojb XINGU : xingu.sf.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
