Leo,
Thanks. I'll take a look at these. I tried getting the latest version of Loom. But it didn't work when I tried to load James. Missing jar. I will play with it a bit more, I imagine it is a jar version problem. The instrumentation code in Loom is pretty old. It is using the
old API before I restructured it last year.

Do you know what James is planning to do in the future? Being built on top of a
frozen code base doesn't seem optimal in the long term

   Thanks for pointing me to these repositories.

   Cheers,
   Leif

Leo Simons wrote:

Leif Mortenson wrote:
Where is Phoenix now?

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/avalon-phoenix/
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic

 was migrated to

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/avalon/cvs-migration-snapshot/avalon-phoenix/?root=Apache-SVN
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/avalon/cvs-migration-snapshot/avalon-phoenix

 and various tagged versions can be found under

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/avalon/tags/?root=Apache-SVN
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/avalon/tags

 (with of course there being the same tags on CVS as well)
 though looking at all that I'm afraid 4.0.4 was never tagged.

 Distributions are still at

http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/avalon/phoenix

 After they are removed from the mirroring system a few years from now,
 they'll still be at

http://archive.apache.org/dist/avalon/phoenix/

 Documentation is currently not available online.

Does it exist in a repository that can be modified at this point?

No (not at Apache, that is).

I started using James recently and wanted to get Instrumentation into
Phoenix.  I had thought that it was frozen though.

I've been suggesting that people take a look at Codehaus Loom:

 http://loom.codehaus.org/

which one could be tempted to call a heavily modified and cleaned up
phoenix 4.1 (perhaps dub it "phoenix 5"). They have instrumentation
support I think.

cheers,

Leo

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