Aaron, Last we checked, Matt, Hernan and I showed interest as well [1]. We are looking for a leader to spearhead this effort. Let me be blunt, at this point we are looking upto you to lead the way as the person with the most knowledge/experience. Sorry to put you on the spot!.
thanks, -- dims [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=geronimo-dev&m=115048484932019&w=2 On 9/2/06, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would be happy to help, not take a lead ;-) I have a lot on my plate right now. I would like to see all of our components as plugins (not just directory, samples, console ,etc). I think once everything is a plugin, the real value of Geronimo will begin to become evident. Aaron Mulder wrote: > Well, are there any volunteers to set up the Geronimo plugins project > and migrate all the current ones (directory, examples, possibly > console, etc.) to that? > > Thanks, > Aaron > > On 9/2/06, Matt Hogstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Totally agree...with your points. I was commenting more on why we >> didn't have it yet. I concur >> that The Geronimo Project should be hosting our own set of plugins. >> Esp. the Apache based ones like >> directory and samples. >> >> I hope I didn't go too far into the ditch :) >> >> Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> > Matt, >> > >> > I guess, we should the leave the offer of a new Geronimo subproject >> > for plugins on the table. The bottom line is *IF* someone wants to >> > develop plugins here, then we can and should set it up at that time. >> > Until then it's status quo. It's not like we have not done this >> > plugins concept before. For example, see the httpd's list/site of >> > community maintained modules (all licenses) here: >> > http://modules.apache.org/ >> > >> > We should do as much as possible for people who wish to engage and cut >> > our losses if people come up with lame reasons not to engage or don't >> > wish to work within the bounds of an ASF sponsored project. >> > >> > Aaron, or anyone else for that matter can work where they want. We >> > can't force anyone to work here. All we can do is thank them for the >> > work done here so far and wish them best to continue elsewhere. >> > >> > thanks, >> > dims >> > >> > On 9/2/06, Matt Hogstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think this is what most people want. I can't speak for Aaron but I >> >> think he wants to build some >> >> plugins that includes LGPL code. IIRC he felt that it was too much >> >> work for him to build and >> >> maintain the two different sites and specifically said he was going to >> >> do it elsewhere for the >> >> licensing issue. No one else has stepped up in the community to put >> >> the alternate site together. >> >> >> >> I agree it is unfortunate and not good for the community but the >> >> community lacks the resources / >> >> interest to do both. >> >> >> >> Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> >> > Just like we have a "Apache Geronimo Development Tools >> Subproject" why >> >> > can't we have a "Apache Geronimo Plugins Subproject"? and grant >> folks >> >> > working on plugins karma there if karma is the issue. >> >> > >> >> > My 2 cents...Forking community is not good. We should try to >> encourage >> >> > people to work here especially new folks. If i had not gotten the >> red >> >> > carpet from cocoon folks back in 2001, i'd never have made it as a >> >> > Apache committer. If they had told me to open a new sf.net project >> >> > with my addons that would have been the end of the road for me. I am >> >> > greatly indebted to folks like Stefano who gave me a jump start. >> >> > >> >> > -- dims >> >> > >> >> > On 9/1/06, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Re: developers developing plugins - you're certainly right, we're >> >> not >> >> >> > developing one monolithic codebase with all the features one >> could >> >> >> > dream of. It's impossible and I understand why people could >> develop >> >> >> > their plugins outside. They simply don't have necessary karma to >> >> do it >> >> >> > here. That's a very important matter I've not thought of before. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > What I was not happy with was you as a Geronimo committer >> who's been >> >> >> > doing plugin development outside. Now, when I think about it a >> bit >> >> >> > more I think I get the gist of it - you couldn't work with your >> >> >> > buddies, actually, they couldn't work as easily as they can do >> >> outside >> >> >> > - the rest of the jpa plugin team don't have the karma to do it >> >> here. >> >> >> > Got it and have to think about it a little to let my mind settle. >> >> >> >> >> >> A major part of my moral compass on situations like this is, "what >> >> >> signal >> >> >> does this send to the aspiring <ProjectName> developers out there?" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Imagine a hundred developers excited about the idea of developing >> >> >> plugins >> >> >> for Geronimo. How do my actions and attitudes in this situation >> >> affect >> >> >> them and their excitement and what does it tell them about how they >> >> >> might >> >> >> be perceived by me? Am I ultimately bringing them closer or >> scaring >> >> >> them >> >> >> away? >> >> >> >> >> >> The answers are of course harder. >> >> >> >> >> >> -David >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >>
-- Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers)
