Just in case it may help, these are the startup times for Tomcat on a Windows 
XP (three runs in sequence)
1.- 46
2.- 31
3.- 26

did other 3 more runs and the time was just about the same as the third one

These are the startup times for Jetty (on the same Windows XP box)

Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.5.0_06)...
Module  1/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/rmi-naming/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car            
     started in   .312s
Module  2/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/j2ee-server/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car           
     started in   .188s
Module  3/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/transaction-jta11/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car     
     started in   .359s
Module  4/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/j2ee-security/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car         
     started in   .469s
Module  5/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/openejb/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car               
     started in  5.907s
Module  6/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/system-database/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car       
     started in   .000s
Module  7/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/activemq-broker/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car       
     started in  2.812s
Module  8/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/activemq/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car              
     started in   .750s
Module  9/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car                
     started in  1.062s
Module 10/26 
org.apache.geronimo.configs/geronimo-gbean-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car    started 
in   .282s
Module 11/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/j2ee-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car         
     started in   .328s
Module 12/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/connector-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car    
     started in   .172s
Module 13/26 
org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started 
in   .109s
Module 14/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/openejb-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car      
     started in   .218s
Module 15/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/client-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car       
     started in   .094s
Module 16/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/cxf-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car          
     started in   .235s
Module 17/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/axis-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car         
     started in   .703s
Module 18/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/javamail/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car              
     started in   .063s
Module 19/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/sharedlib/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car             
     started in   .000s
Module 20/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/jetty6-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car       
     started in   .265s
Module 21/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/welcome-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car         
     started in 27.516s
Module 22/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/dojo-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car           
     started in 23.969s
Module 23/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/webconsole-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car     
    10:13:35,546 WARN  [WebXmlParser] Ignored element 'dispatcher' as child of 
'filter-mapping'.
started in  3:50.297s
Module 24/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car   
     started in 23.875s
Module 25/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/hot-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car          
     started in   .469s
Module 26/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/jsr88-rar-configurer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car  
     started in   .110s
Startup completed in 324 seconds


It seems to take nearly double the time on Windows boxes. I tried these on rev 
#518074

Cheers!
Hernan

Jason Dillon wrote:
FYI... The Tomcat flavor boots up *much* quicker... in ~20 seconds.

--jason


On Mar 13, 2007, at 12:59 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:

Anyone notice that it takes a long, long... long time for the server to start now? I've not yet tried Tomcat, but the Jetty flavor appears to take *very* long time to boot up:

<snip>
</snip>

Odd that the "started in" message appears before the rest of the startup output too... :-(

<snip>
[INFO] [geronimo:start]
[INFO] Using assembly configuration: jetty
[INFO] snapshot org.apache.geronimo.assemblies:geronimo-jetty6-jee5:2.0-SNAPSHOT: checking for updates from apache-snapshots [INFO] snapshot org.apache.geronimo.assemblies:geronimo-jetty6-jee5:2.0-SNAPSHOT: checking for updates from axis2-m2-repo [INFO] snapshot org.apache.geronimo.assemblies:geronimo-jetty6-jee5:2.0-SNAPSHOT: checking for updates from codehaus-snapshots [INFO] snapshot org.apache.geronimo.assemblies:geronimo-jetty6-jee5:2.0-SNAPSHOT: checking for updates from apache.snapshots [INFO] Using assembly artifact: org.apache.geronimo.assemblies:geronimo-jetty6-jee5:zip:bin:2.0-SNAPSHOT [INFO] Using geronimoHome: /Users/jason/ws/geronimo/server/target/geronimo-jetty6-jee5-2.0-SNAPSHOT [INFO] Uninstalling: /Users/jason/ws/geronimo/server/target/geronimo-jetty6-jee5-2.0-SNAPSHOT
[INFO] Installing assembly...
[INFO] Expanding: /Users/jason/.m2/repository/org/apache/geronimo/assemblies/geronimo-jetty6-jee5/2.0-SNAPSHOT/geronimo-jetty6-jee5-2.0-SNAPSHOT-bin.zip into /Users/jason/ws/geronimo/server/target
[INFO] Starting Geronimo server...
log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (org.apache.geronimo.mavenplugins.geronimo.ServerProxy).
log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.
[INFO] Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.5.0_07)...
[INFO] Module 1/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/rmi-naming/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .362s [INFO] Module 2/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/j2ee-server/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .242s [INFO] Module 3/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/transaction-jta11/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .397s [INFO] Module 4/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/j2ee-security/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .603s [INFO] Module 5/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/openejb/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in 6.706s [INFO] Module 6/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/system-database/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .000s [INFO] Module 7/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/activemq-broker/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in 2.143s [INFO] Module 8/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/activemq/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .702s [WARNING] 2007-03-13 00:48:14.273::INFO: Logging to STDERR via org.mortbay.log.StdErrLog
[WARNING] 2007-03-13 00:48:14.289::INFO:  jetty-6.1.x
[WARNING] 2007-03-13 00:48:14.451::INFO: Started SocketConnector @ localhost:8080 [WARNING] 2007-03-13 00:48:14.647::INFO: Started GeronimoSSLListener @ localhost:8443 [INFO] Module 9/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in 1.198s [INFO] Module 10/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/geronimo-gbean-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .316s [INFO] Module 11/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/j2ee-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .378s [INFO] Module 12/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/connector-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .207s [INFO] Module 13/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .124s [INFO] Module 14/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/openejb-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .221s [INFO] Module 15/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/client-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .158s [INFO] Module 16/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/cxf-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .248s [INFO] Module 17/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/axis-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .776s [INFO] Module 18/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/javamail/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .057s [INFO] Module 19/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/sharedlib/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .014s [INFO] Module 20/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/jetty6-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .257s [INFO] Module 21/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/welcome-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in 15.510s [INFO] Module 22/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/dojo-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in 12.453s [INFO] Module 23/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/webconsole-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car 00:50:44,087 WARN [WebXmlParser] Ignored element 'dispatcher' as child of 'filter-mapping'.
[INFO]  started in  1:58.794s
[INFO] Module 24/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in 12.128s [INFO] Module 25/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/hot-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .519s [INFO] Module 26/26 org.apache.geronimo.configs/jsr88-rar-configurer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car started in .121s
[INFO] Startup completed in 179 seconds
[INFO]   Listening on Ports:
[INFO]     1099 0.0.0.0   RMI Naming
[INFO]     1527 0.0.0.0   Derby Connector
[INFO]     4201 0.0.0.0   org.apache.geronimo.openejb.EjbDaemonGBean
[INFO]     4242 0.0.0.0   Remote Login Listener
[INFO]     8080 127.0.0.1 Jetty Connector HTTP
[INFO]     8443 127.0.0.1 Jetty Connector HTTPS
[INFO]     9999 0.0.0.0   JMX Remoting Connector
[INFO]    61613 0.0.0.0   ActiveMQ Transport Connector
[INFO]    61616 0.0.0.0   ActiveMQ Transport Connector
[INFO]
[INFO]   Started Application Modules:
[INFO] EAR: org.apache.geronimo.configs/webconsole-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
[INFO]     RAR: org.apache.geronimo.configs/activemq/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
[INFO] RAR: org.apache.geronimo.configs/system-database/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
[INFO]     WAR: org.apache.geronimo.configs/dojo-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
[INFO] WAR: org.apache.geronimo.configs/remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car [INFO] WAR: org.apache.geronimo.configs/welcome-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
[INFO]
[INFO]   Web Applications:
[INFO]     http://localhost:8080/
[INFO]     http://localhost:8080/console
[INFO]     http://localhost:8080/console-standard
[INFO]     http://localhost:8080/dojo
[INFO]     http://localhost:8080/remote-deploy
[INFO]
[INFO] Geronimo Application Server started
[INFO] Geronimo server started
[INFO] Waiting for Geronimo server to shutdown...
</snip>

Almost 3 minutes according to the "Startup completed" message, though I think its taking a little bit longer.

And shutdown seems to be barfing up (and there are a ton of these messages):

<snip>
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/discovery/tools/DiscoverSingleton at org.apache.myfaces.config.annotation.AnnotationProcessorFactory.getAnnotatonProcessorFactory(AnnotationProcessorFactory.java:38) at org.apache.myfaces.webapp.AbstractMyFacesListener.doPreDestroy(AbstractMyFacesListener.java:60) at org.apache.myfaces.webapp.StartupServletContextListener.doPredestroy(StartupServletContextListener.java:114) at org.apache.myfaces.webapp.StartupServletContextListener.contextDestroyed(StartupServletContextListener.java:95) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.doStop(ContextHandler.java:567) at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStop(WebAppContext.java:461) at org.mortbay.component.AbstractLifeCycle.stop(AbstractLifeCycle.java:65) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerCollection.doStop(HandlerCollection.java:164) at org.mortbay.component.AbstractLifeCycle.stop(AbstractLifeCycle.java:65) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerCollection.doStop(HandlerCollection.java:164) at org.mortbay.component.AbstractLifeCycle.stop(AbstractLifeCycle.java:65) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.doStop(HandlerWrapper.java:129)
...
</snip>

I tried running w/o my local changes to include -javaagent:bin/jpa.jar too... and still the server takes forever to load.

What's going on? Is today just a bad day for my luck with Geronimo? Or is something else very broken? One of the CPUs on my dual core MacBookPro is pegged when the startup appears to hang...

:-(

--jason



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