Hi Jun,

Thanks. I have cherry-picked
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18864 to 4.0.

Best,
David

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 3:18 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have opened https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19080 for Kirk's
> logging observation.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 12:22 PM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruno,
>>
>> Please go ahead and cherry-pick it to 4.0.
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:12 AM Bruno Cadonna <cado...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi David,
>> >
>> > we found an issue with Kafka Streams that definitely is a regression. A
>> > commit fixed a leak, introduced a bug that prevented Kafka Streams from
>> > re-initializing its transactional producer in case the producer is
>> > fenced. The consequence of not re-initializing the transactional
>> > producer is an infinite loop of ProducerFencedExceptions with
>> > corresponding rebalances (approx every min).
>> >
>> > I opened a PR that reverts the defective commit:
>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19078
>> >
>> > We tested the revert in our internal soak and everything seems fine
>> again.
>> >
>> > May I cherry-pick the revert to 4.0?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Bruno
>> >
>> > On 28.02.25 22:59, Ismael Juma wrote:
>> > > Given that this is effectively a documentation fix, a cherry-pick
>> makes
>> > > sense.
>> > >
>> > > Ismael
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 1:30 PM Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi, David,
>> > >>
>> > >> We just fixed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18864.
>> Not sure
>> > >> if you want to cherry-pick it to 4.0.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >>
>> > >> Jun
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 7:22 PM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Thanks for the testing Kirk. Can you please file an issue for the
>> > >> repeated
>> > >>> log to make sure it doesn't get lost in this thread?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Ismael
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 2:54 PM Kirk True <k...@kirktrue.pro>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hi David,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I focused on testing the clients using Java 11:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> My steps:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 1. Start the broker via the native Docker image
>> > >>>> (apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc0)
>> > >>>> 2. Wrote a simple client to write and read messages, using
>> > >> kafka-clients
>> > >>>> 4.0.0 from https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging
>> > >>>> 3. Ran my client with group.protocol set to CLASSIC
>> > >>>> 4. I then ran the client with CONSUMER
>> > >>>> 5. Finally, I ran two clients instances in the same consumer
>> group, one
>> > >>>> with a group.protocol set to CLASSIC and the other with CONSUMER
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Everything worked as expected.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I did notice the following message showing up repeatedly in the
>> broker
>> > >>>> logs after my tests completed:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Generated 0 tombstone records while cleaning up group metadata in 0
>> > >>>> milliseconds.
>> > >> (org.apache.kafka.coordinator.group.GroupCoordinatorShard)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Not sure if that's expected or not.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>> Kirk
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025, at 5:15 PM, Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
>> > >>>>> hi David
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I apologize for not testing the release candidate (RC) as I
>> focused
>> > >> on
>> > >>>> reviewing the documentation. I have created tickets to address
>> issues
>> > >> in
>> > >>>> the documentation [0][1][2][3], which will be merged into 4.0 as
>> the
>> > >> risk
>> > >>>> is minimal.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Please let me know if you have any other options for those
>> tickets.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18869
>> > >>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18868
>> > >>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18850
>> > >>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18849
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Best,
>> > >>>>> Chia-Ping
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On 2025/02/22 10:16:43 David Jacot wrote:
>> > >>>>>> Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> This is the first candidate for release of Apache Kafka 4.0.0. We
>> > >>>>>> still have some remaining blockers but we figured that getting a
>> > >>> first
>> > >>>>>> release candidate will help the community to test this major
>> > >> release.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> - This is the first release without Apache Zookeeper
>> > >>>>>> - The Next Generation of the Consumer Rebalance Protocol is
>> > >> Generally
>> > >>>> Available
>> > >>>>>> - The Transactions Server-Side Defense (Phase 2) is Generally
>> > >>> Available
>> > >>>>>> - Queues for Kafka is in Early Access
>> > >>>>>> - Kafka uses log4j2
>> > >>>>>> - Drop broker and tools support for Java 11
>> > >>>>>> - Remove old client protocol API versions
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Release notes for the 4.0.0 release:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/RELEASE_NOTES.html
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> *** Please download and test the release. Voting is not necessary
>> > >> as
>> > >>>>>> we still have blockers.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
>> > >>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
>> > >>>>>> apache/kafka:4.0.0-rc0
>> > >>>>>> apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc0 (Building the native image failed,
>> I
>> > >>>>>> need to investigate it)
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Javadoc:
>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/javadoc/
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Tag to be voted upon (off 4.0 branch) is the 4.0.0 tag:
>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/4.0.0-rc0
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Documentation:
>> > >>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Protocol:
>> > >>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/protocol.html
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Successful CI builds for the 4.0 branch:
>> > >>>>>> Unit/integration tests:
>> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13459676207
>> > >>>>>> System tests: TBD
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline for 4.0 branch:
>> > >>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13471603921
>> > >>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13471605941
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> /**************************************
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>> David
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

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