+1 (PMC)

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 9:09 AM Bruno Roustant <[email protected]>
wrote:

> +0 (PMC)
>
> While I like the simplification, I'm a little concerned by the risk of
> disruption in history.
>
> Le mar. 7 juin 2022 à 05:07, Tomoko Uchida <[email protected]>
> a écrit :
>
>> I'm sorry there was a mistake in the important date. This is the
>> corrected version.
>>
>> ======
>> this vote received 13 ballots in total (including +1, +0, and -1) so
>> far, this does not reach the quorum of 15. I'll extend the term to
>> 2022-06-13 16:00 UTC.
>>
>> This is a friendly reminder note in case you have missed it in my first
>> post.
>>
>> *IMPORTANT NOTE*
>> I set a local protocol for this vote.
>> There are 95 committers on this project [3] - the vote will be
>> effective if it successfully gains more than 15% of voters (>= 15)
>> from committers (including PMC members). This means, that although
>> only PMC member votes are counted for the final result, the votes from
>> all committers are important to make the vote result effective.
>>
>> If there are less than 15 votes at 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC, I will expand
>> the term to 2022-06-13 16:00 UTC. If this fails to get sufficient
>> voters after the expanded time limit, I'll cancel this vote regardless
>> of the result.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tomoko
>>
>> 2022年6月7日(火) 12:03 Tomoko Uchida <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > this vote received 13 ballots in total (including +1, +0, and -1) so
>> > far, this does not reach the quorum of 15. I'll extend the term to
>> > 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC.
>> >
>> > This is a friendly reminder note in case you have missed it in my first
>> post.
>> >
>> > *IMPORTANT NOTE*
>> > I set a local protocol for this vote.
>> > There are 95 committers on this project [3] - the vote will be
>> > effective if it successfully gains more than 15% of voters (>= 15)
>> > from committers (including PMC members). This means, that although
>> > only PMC member votes are counted for the final result, the votes from
>> > all committers are important to make the vote result effective.
>> >
>> > If there are less than 15 votes at 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC, I will expand
>> > the term to 2022-06-13 16:00 UTC. If this fails to get sufficient
>> > voters after the expanded time limit, I'll cancel this vote regardless
>> > of the result.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tomoko
>> >
>> > 2022年6月1日(水) 6:19 Alessandro Benedetti <[email protected]>:
>> > >
>> > > +1(committer, non PMC)
>> > >
>> > > Lately I kinda feel having to create the Jira, after I detailed a
>> contribution in the pull request, is just a boilerplate activity of copying
>> and pasting and tagging again.
>> > > I would be happy to reduce this burden.
>> > > I left other details in the discussion thread.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 31 May 2022, 21:19 Jason Gerlowski, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> +1 (PMC)
>> > >>
>> > >> I understand concerns about handing governance over to a 3rd party,
>> but letting that drive our decision-making here feels like optimizing for a
>> rare case that might never occur.  I'd m,uch rather optimize for making
>> things easiest for contributors, and then accommodate any "Github ToS ban,
>> sanctions, etc." situations if and when they crop up on a case by case
>> basis.
>> > >>
>> > >> Best,
>> > >>
>> > >> Jason
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:09 AM Gus Heck <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -1 I think the disruption and bifurcation of where to find history
>> is not worth it. I also noticed a comment in the lucene issue for migration
>> with summaries by date range, status, affects version,  etc. sub-area,
>> exactly the sort of thing I expect to be much more difficult to obtain from
>> github. What I would find interesting is a deep integration of the two
>> systems so that initiation and basic commenting could be handled on github,
>> but transmitted to Jira where full metadata and reporting/tracking could be
>> maintained.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:17 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> -1
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Tue, 31 May, 2022, 4:06 am Xi Chen,
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> +1 from me (committer, non-PMC)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Thanks Tomoko for starting the discussion and organizing /
>> leading this effort!
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Best,
>> > >>>>> Zach
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On May 30, 2022, at 2:56 PM, Houston Putman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> 
>> > >>>>> +1 Approve (PMC)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Thanks so much for doing all of the work for this Tomoko!
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> - Houston
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 5:38 PM David Smiley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> +1 Approve (PMC)
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> ~ David Smiley
>> > >>>>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>> > >>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:40 AM Tomoko Uchida <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> As we had previous discussion thread [1], I propose migration
>> to GitHub issue from Jira.
>> > >>>>>>> It'd be technically possible (see [2] for details) and I think
>> it'd be good for the project - not only for welcoming new developers who
>> are not familiar with Jira, but also for improving the experiences of
>> long-term committers/contributors by consolidating the conversation
>> platform.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> You can see a short summary of the discussion, some stats on
>> current Jira issues, and a draft migration plan in [2].
>> > >>>>>>> Please review [2] if you haven't seen it and vote for this
>> proposal.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> The vote will be open until 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> [ ] +1  approve
>> > >>>>>>> [ ] +0  no opinion
>> > >>>>>>> [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Here is my +1
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> *IMPORTANT NOTE*
>> > >>>>>>> I set a local protocol for this vote.
>> > >>>>>>> There are 95 committers on this project [3] - the vote will be
>> effective if it successfully gains more than 15% of voters (>= 15) from
>> committers (including PMC members). This means, that although only PMC
>> member votes are counted for the final result, the votes from all
>> committers are important to make the vote result effective.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> If there are less than 15 votes at 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC, I will
>> expand the term to 2022-06-13 16:00 UTC. If this fails to get sufficient
>> voters after the expanded time limit, I'll cancel this vote regardless of
>> the result.
>> > >>>>>>> But why do I set such an extra bar? My fear is that if such
>> things are decided by the opinions of a few members, the result shouldn't
>> yield a good outcome for the future. It isn't my goal to just pass the vote
>> [4].
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> [1]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/78wj0vll73sct065m5jjm4z8gqb5yffk
>> > >>>>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10557
>> > >>>>>>> [3] https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?lucene
>> > >>>>>>> [4] I'm sorry for being overly cautious, but I have never met
>> in person or virtually any of the committers (with a very few exceptions),
>> therefore cannot assess if the vote result is reliable or not unless there
>> is certain explicit feedback.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Tomoko
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work)
>> > >>> http://www.the111shift.com (play)
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