On 29/03/2007, at 1:03 PM, Brian E. Fox wrote:
Brett,
I can see some logic to this as it's just another shade of grey
between
the current snapshot repo and central. It does however feel a little
like a hack to work around some version ranging issues. I think
massembly is a good example of where this is needed, but perhaps
mdep is
a case where it's not. This is still in "alpha" because there are more
goals planned to be added. While the plugin overall is alpha, some of
the original goals (copy/unpack, etc) are quite mature and very
stable.
If we did this, it would raise the bar a little higher for people
to get
useful functionality.
Good point, but shouldn't that stable functionality be in the
previous release, which folks should still be using in production
until they need to upgrade?
<snip stuff I agree with>
The only thing that is slightly annoying is when you have plugins with
goals that are both meant to be bound and some for the CLI. When
you put
a plugin in to pluginManagement, this applies even to the CLI
versions.
I'm not sure if/how we could make this better but here's the use
case: I
use mdep to unpack and copy stuff so I set 2.0-alpha-3 (example). But
now I want to prepare for 2.0.6 and want to run dependency:analyze
and I
want 2.0-alpha-4, I have to change my pluginManagement. I guess a
way to
override PMgt from the CLI would be sufficient here.
You can actually do this (yet another not well documented thing):
mvn org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-dependency-plugin:2.0-alpha-4:analyze
It's pretty grotesque - and I think better ways to manage pure CLI
plugins vs lifecycle ones in terms of versioning are definitely
needed. We had a stab with plugin-registry, but it wasn't all that
successful. It's actually a whole category of use cases to revise -
like how to easily select your repositories from the CLI when you
don't have a POM, etc. Thanks for bringing it up!
Cheers,
Brett
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