On 2011-06-23 16:24, John Casey wrote: > If we wanted to take a more automated approach to the voting process as > a whole, you might be able to get the uniformity necessary. There are > quite a few steps to calling a vote, and even the vote email itself has > a certain "best practice" format. If we generated that vote email > somehow
This is something that I've wanted to do. Now that the announcement mail templates are in place, I might be able to find time for this. Do we want an auto-generated vote mail? >, then we could give a template for reply right at the top (or > bottom). Voters could highlight and reply with, or cut/paste... > > Dunno, maybe that's a huge distraction from more interesting work, but > it seems like almost a natural extension of what ASF has been doing for > voting on members stuff for some time now... > > On 6/23/11 9:03 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> I'm not concerned with full automation. My current vision is that the >> tool pops up and says: >> >> I think I got these votes from these people: OK? >> >> Note that i can't make the vote parser itself 100% reliable since >> people don't use the [X] convention. >> >> Also, as we all know, the site is frequently not up to date on PMC >> members. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Kristian Rosenvold >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> If you're supposed to do things fully automatic I think it should be >>> a little more secure than that. >>> >>> Basically I just need a file of hash->pmc member id mappings. If >>> things need >>> to be >>> simple we could just put it in a plaintext file on the site. >>> >>> Using a formula like gravatar does >>> (http://en.gravatar.com/site/implement/hash/) >>> you could create a file like "pmcs.txt" or similar. I could just add >>> myself >>> to the file like this >>> >>> CAFEBABE1855b5ff21e4963273a886ED krosenvold >>> DEADBEEF1855b5ff21e4963273a886ED krosenvold >>> f9879d71855b5ff21e4963273a886bfc krosenvold >>> A15212d71855b5ff21e4963273a886ED krosenvold >>> ABADCAFE1855b5ff21e4963273a886ED brett >>> >>> You just get the file from the project site, hash the sender email >>> and see >>> if you have a match. >>> I'm sure the guys here will have a zillion further ways to improve this >>> scheme >>> >>> Kristian >>> >>> >>> Den 23.06.2011 14:22, skrev Benson Margulies: >>>> >>>> This scheme does not have to be secure. How about asking people to >>>> just toss their memberid in the form availid:royfielding into the >>>> message body if you don't use an apache.org from? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Kristian Rosenvold >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am also sceptical to being forced into using the asf account unless >>>>> someone can explain a simple way to make my mail come from there via >>>>> something >>>>> IMAP/SMTP like. I have no problem with committing to voting only >>>>> from,say >>>>> 2 >>>>> or 3 different accounts ;) >>>>> >>>>> How about somehow querying the ASF maililinglist server to determine >>>>> who's >>>>> on the pmc list ? >>>>> >>>>> Maybe we could put md5/sha1 hashes of all our voting email adresses on >>>>> the >>>>> team list http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kristian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Den 23.06.2011 06:45, skrev Ralph Goers: >>>>>> >>>>>> -1 >>>>>> >>>>>> I have used my dslextreme.com email for years and now have a couple >>>>>> dozen >>>>>> ASF email lists on it. [email protected] forwards to it. Event >>>>>> when I >>>>>> send >>>>>> as [email protected] from gmail (which hosts dslexteme.com) or Mac >>>>>> Mail >>>>>> it >>>>>> always still shows that it is sent by my dslextreme.com account (I >>>>>> tried >>>>>> to >>>>>> do this the other day for moderation and it didn't work). The >>>>>> only way >>>>>> I >>>>>> have found to actually send from [email protected] is to log in to >>>>>> people.apache.org and use mail. If someone can explain a way to make >>>>>> sending work then I'd be a lot more open to the idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I wrote a program for the job, it reads my gmail and matches it >>>>>>> against the PMC membership. Unfortunately, not all of us vote from >>>>>>> email addresses that match our Apache Member IDs. Would people be >>>>>>> willing to use their @apache.org email? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Binding votes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 votes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> olamy >>>>>>> struberg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total count 2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Binding 0 votes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total count 0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Binding -1 votes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total count 0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nonbinding votes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 votes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kristian.rosenvold >>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly >>>>>>> herve.boutemy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total count 3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nonbinding 0 votes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total count 0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nonbinding -1 votes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > -- Dennis Lundberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
