Very nicely put Glenn! --emi
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 25 June 2018 5:45 PM, Glenn Holmer <[email protected]> wrote: > On 06/24/2018 02:38 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > Also, the NetCAT team seems to be split into sub-groups called > > > > 'tribes' and they have a 'leader' which seems to be the only one that > > > > 'can label a bug with WAIVER tag'. > > > > This seems rather against the Apache way, as you either are a > > > > committer or not (or part of the PMC or not). Although 'after > > > > reaching consensus within his/her tribe' makes it sound like there's > > > > a vote going on, we cannot restrict voting to a subgroup under > > > > Apache, afaik; everybody is allowed to vote. > > In practice, it is (or should be) a discussion within the tribe to see > > which issues should be proposed as blockers. Tribe leaders are mainly > > responsible for dividing up the work of going through the test specs and > > making sure tribe members are on schedule. > > > The 'Community Acceptance survey' is interesting as it seems to allow > > > > non-binding votes to block a release. This sounds interesting, but > > > > it's also not the Apache way. Of course, if many non-binding votes > > > > point toward something bad, we can decide to take that into account, > > > > but it's not automatic. > > I agree with what you're saying here; we're in a new world now. The PMC > > is the body that must make decisions about whether to release; NetCAT > > should be seen as an advisory body. Just as in the past, when NetCAT > > reports a bug, committers may clarify or override the severity. > > As a long-time NetCAT team member, I'm certainly not trying to minimize > > its importance. If NetBeans users feel strongly enough to participate in > > NetCAT (it's a lot of work to go through those test specs!) and make a > > point about an issue, it should be taken very seriously, and the role of > > NetCAT in the release process should be clearly defined. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
