Changing list from private -> dev.
So this is what we are talking about? Do you want to "claim" the netbeans name
on behalf of the PPMC on Snapcraft.io?
--emi
Yes, that's what I was talking about.
On 07/02/2018 01:04 AM, Emilian Bold wrote:
I still don't understand what do you want and why are we talking on private@
So, I see we have https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341 and the PR
has been merged.
The next steps seem to be:
2. actually building snap packages on builds.apache.org then
3. uploading the bits to snapcraft.
So, what exactly do you want? Do you want to upload bits to snapcraft? We
should have some script for that.
If we generate some private key to talk with snapcraft we should save that
private key in the private PPMC repo we have.
Can't we put the script that uploads to snapcraft to builds.apache.org directly?
It seems there is very little you need to do in person, so I'm not sure what
kind of permission you need.
I assume you might be talking about this
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16367610
:
someone with access to commit to the repository needs to login with their
github credentials [at the build service and add the repo]. Once that is done
they are able to select to register the name in the store by further
logging-into a launchpad account and then entering the name. They will need to
file a claim on the name as it is, which you pointed out, reserved; they just
need to explain that they’re acting on behalf of the project and are therefore
the legitimate owner of the name.
So this is what we are talking about? Do you want to "claim" the netbeans name
on behalf of the PPMC on Snapcraft.io?
--emi
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On 2 July 2018 9:08 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Emilian for asking questions! Giving further information never
hurts.
The netbeans name is a "reserved" name on Snapcraft.io, in order to no
one shall create a package with the name "netbeans" coming just out of
the blue. (So "netbeans" is a recognized brand by Snapcraft.io)
Well, there can be separate channels set up for a package, like stable,
beta or edge, but the naming of these channels are completely under the
control of the package maintainer.
What I think would be good is to have a channel track the release branch
and have one to track the master. We could build our binaries in/after
our Jenkins job produces a daily/whatrver build and push the result to
the appropriate snap channel of the package.
I hope I made this more clear.
On 07/01/2018 10:45 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
I don't really understand your question.
Do you want to just 'reserve' the nebeans name or do you want to make snap
releases on snapscraft.io?
If you want to make releases, that doesn't seem to be the way to go see
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html We could do snap convenience
binaries as part of our normal release, but not separate out-of-band releases.
If you just want to 'reserve' the name I have no problem you sending an email
for that. NetBeans is an Oracle trademark and soon to be an Apache Software
Foundation trademark so the Snapcraft guys really can't release anything under
the netbeans name unless they want problems.
Just note that reserving the netbeans name there doesn't mean we'll do releases
there.
--emi
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On 2 July 2018 4:37 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi [email protected] wrote:
Well, I have found Apache CouchDB does a Snap distribution, so we have a
precedence here.
So I ask my question in reverse, is there anybody against this plan?
On 06/18/2018 09:59 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
I don't believe Apache does releases on 3rd party channels.
Can we build a convenience binary snap package on our infra and just upload it
there?
--emi
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On 18 June 2018 11:31 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi [email protected] wrote:
Dear all,
You may know that I'm trying to make Apache NetBeans available as a Snap
package. Right now they are keeping "netbeans" in their reserved names.
I do need to arrange that we could claim the name. I do not know how
such things shall be arranged, so I thought write here. If you entitle
me to have discussion with Snapcraft Team (Canonical), then I'd gladly
do that. If there are other ideas on this, or if there is someone who
does not support this movement, please speak up as well!
Thank you in advance,
Laszlo Kishalmi
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