Hi Laszlo,

Fantastic list of items and you clearly are going to be a great release
manager.

One related item is that, or as a reminder, is that there'll be one or more
voting candidates that you'll be putting together, which we could call
Alpha, Beta, etc, but in Apache terminology will be voting candidate 1,
voting candidate 2, etc.

The first of these that you put together will be used by the NetCAT
community, assuming we continue with the NetCAT approach, and assuming is
approved by NetCAT, will then go to a vote on the Apache NetBeans developer
mailing list, after which it will go to the IPMC vote (i.e., the incubator
PMC).

If a vote fails on any of these levels, we'll need to fix an issue or
something else, and then you'll create another voting candidate.

Whichever voting candidate passes all votes will be the newly released
Apache NetBeans 10.

Note that we have all of October for the above process:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

Hope that what I'm doing here is simply reiterating what we all already
know to be true, i.e., there's nothing controversial or new in this mail,
just restating the process as we know it to be.

Gj


On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Geertjan,
>
> First, my timezone is Pacific time. I've read through the docs. It seems
> I'm going to have a bit more task, than before, but I guess the first time
> was the hardest one.
>
>    1. After we finalize the scope, merge whatever PR is out to be merged,
>    we need to create a release branch, then it needs to be cleansed from those
>    parts which were not ready to be delivered.
>    2. On the binaries we need to decide whether shall we create binary
>    release flavors like PHP, Java SE or if it got ready in time Jakarta EE
>    3. We need to create a feature (New and Noteworthy) page
>    4. In JIRA we need a new version (or two versions for 10.0 an 11.0).
>    BTW I do not know if the 9.0 has been marked as closed. Do we have a JIRA
>    admin guy or we need to requests these modifications?
>    5. Once the code is shaping up on release branch, creating tags,
>    binaries and signatures are ok.
>    6. There will be some voting
>    7. We need to put 9.0 version in the archives.
>    8. I also try for a real snap for Linux release this time, I'm not
>    that far from that.
>
> Have I missed any major important thing?
>
> P.S.: I'm planning to formulate the release process as a JIRA task with
> detailed bite sized sub-tasks, so it can be tracked, and probably cloned
> for further releases.
>
>
>
>
> On 09/22/2018 02:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> Hi Laszlo,
>
> The things that are involved in managing the release are described in
> "Producing a Release Candidate" below:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>
> It would be good to go through that and see where you anticipate problems
> and just get an overview of what you'll be doing.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> And what's your timezone? People working on Apache NetBeans come from all
> timezones, I believe.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Awesome!
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 1:44 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>
> I volunteer this time.
>
> I hope timezone shift won't be an issue.
>
>
>
> On 09/21/2018 12:41 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>
> Some potential candidates for this role, i.e., which is pretty
> impressive,
> the fact that we have this many who could IMHO already do this from a
> perspective of insight, though the main problem in most/each cases is
> probably time:
>
> - Antonio Vieiro
> - Sven Reimers
> - Matthias Bläsing
> - Junichi Yamamoto
> - Eric Barboni
> - Neil C. Smith
> - Thilina Ranathunga
> - Laszlo Kishalmi
> - John McDonnell
> - Wade Chandler
>
> There may be more and I apologize for omitting anyone else who has been
> involved for some time, committed quite a bit in one way or another, and
> has shown IMHO the technical interest needed for this.
>
> Any volunteers from the above, or someone else -- I am sure you'll be
> supported a lot by Emilian, who was the previous release manager, as
> well
> as myself and the rest of the community of course.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Following our roadmap...
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap
>
> ...we are approaching feature freeze.
>
> A release manager is needed, Emilian did a fantastic job in the Apache
> NetBeans 9 release, and I am sure he can provide support and advice as
> needed.
>
> Several indicated interest in this role the last time we discussed
> this,
> e.g., here:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc7d4a9d71c595f964a0e0ed102b3b25305d3d2dd77135853cedb70e@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> The release manager needs to branch off the release on Sep 30 and not
> let
> any features in after that, only bug fixes. Right now, the integration
> with
> JDK 11 and PHP looks solid, Java EE, JavaScript, Groovy, would all be
> great
> to include -- but people need to step forward fast now to make that
> happen
> otherwise that will be shifted to the next release, early next year,
> while
> all those features will of course be available as is from the 8.2
> Plugin
> Portal.
>
> Hopefully we could then have Apache NetBeans 10 Vote Candidate 1 or 2
> ready for Oracle Code One as a beta or preview release, with the final
> release during November.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
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