I'm +1 with Bertrand's summary regarding community.
The only thing which pops up in my head is the trademark transfer. This will become effective when NetBeans goes TLP. And of course there is a xor lock with the domains. So we should at least reach a state where Oracle also is happy and has a strong trust that Apache NetBeans is/will be a success. Which includes having reliable builds and a clear delivery strategy as far as I understood from the feedback, right? Probably we should go forward and extend Geertjans list of high-level topics which more input from the community. After that we can go through each of the bullet points and decide whether they must be resolved before graduation or can be done a bit later as well? LieGrue, strub PS I will also be able to spend at least as little time as right now to help if questions arise after graduation (regardless whether I'm on the PMC or not). > Am 01.10.2018 um 08:59 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz <[email protected]>: > > Hi, > > (sorry for the late reply, overloooked these responses initially) > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Geertjan Wielenga > <[email protected]> wrote: >> ...I think it would be best to wait until we have done/figured out the >> following... > > I don't think any of the points listed below should block graduation. > > Graduating to an Apache top-level project does not mean that NetBeans > is perfect technically or even that everything has been moved to > Apache - it "just" means that the project mentors and Incubator PMC > think that the project can operate without the guidance of the > Incubator PMC from now on, and stand on its own *from a community > point of view* and continue the transition. > > All the items list below are technical, there's nothing that points to > a community issue. > > Staying in the Incubator for too long blocks mentors from moving on to > other podlings, uses other Incubator resources unnecessarily and also > means delays when doing releases and in other processes which > currently need to involve the Incubator PMC (adding committers and > PPMC members, etc.). > > I strongly suggest reconsidering and moving forward with the > graduation. I am willing to stay on the new PMC, at least for a while, > to help sort out the remaining process-related things. > > -Bertrand > >> >> 1. all our domains (netbeans.org, planetnetbeans.org, etc) running via >> Apache infrastructure: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16946 >> >> 2. all documentation, i.e., tutorials, etc, moved onto Apache >> infrastructure (coming with 3rd donation, in progress) >> >> 3. a clear direction for the location of plugins.netbeans.org >> >> 4. NetBeans javadoc running on Apache infrastructure: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1176 >> >> 5. a solution to the installer question -- i.e., once we figure out how to >> create installers for all operating systems, figure out how they can be >> distributed... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
