Laszlo, you did an amazing job -- and it's really awesome that you want to
continue doing it for the next release!

Gj

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 8:39 AM Antonio <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Laszlo,
>
> I think we all were honored you being our release manager. This release
> has been specially difficult, with unexpected roadblocks and required
> extra effort. Also thank you for volunteering as a 11.0 release manager.
>
> Regarding voting candidates / release candidates, some other projects do
> have release candidates ([1]). I see the "voting" and "release" just a
> naming convention, something that is useful for us to communicate. I
> think the important stuff is having NetCAT helping us decide if
> something is ready or not. Naming is just a cosmetic thing.
>
> +1 to adding BLOCKER to JIRA issues. In fact we could end up having a
> small dictionary for those. For instance, "BLOCKER" could mean to us
> "any reason (legal, technical or other) that may stop a release being
> published".
>
> Finally I'd add another enhancement: storing all NetBeans releases as a
> simple XML/YAML file somewhere in the website (with links, etc.), and
> have the website-tools generate page for us automatically with proper
> links. Apache is very strict on what a release page can have (proper
> urls, mirrors/archive, links to keys and checksums, not including github
> links, etc.) we may want to automate that in the future.
>
> Thanks again for making 10.0 a great release, and Happy New Year everybody,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://spark.apache.org/release-process.html
>
>
> El 29/12/2018 a las 1:11, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I was honored being your release manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating)
> > 10.0.
> >
> > Thank you all, who contributed to this release and thank you for the
> > guidance, correcting me whenever was needed!
> >
> > When I applied as a volunteer, I thought it would be easier especially
> > after Geertjan and Emilian did a really great job releasing and
> > documented the process for 9.0. Special thanks for that! It has turned
> > out it is not enough to simply replicating the previous process, but we
> > needed to improve that.
> >
> > I needed to learn a lot about the Apache way, and along the road I made
> > a few mistakes, sometimes miscommunication, which could have been
> > annoying or look unprofessional. I'm sorry for that. I'm sure I was not
> > the best release manager for Apache NetBeans so far, I just hope I was
> > good enough. As of the future, if the community trusts me I apply as a
> > volunteer release manager for the upcoming Apache NetBeans 11.0 release.
> >
> > I see two major things need some improvement:
> >
> > I'm still not happy with the vote candidate naming convention. Even if
> > we had no public non GA release during the 10.0 cycle, We really had an
> > internal Beta 1 (10.0-vc1), Beta 2 (10.0-vc2) which we do not really had
> > the intent for offer voting on PPMC. We had an Release Candidate 1
> > (10.0-vc3), which almost ended up being released and at the end we had
> > an RC3 (10.0 -vc5) which has been finally released as  Apache NetBeans
> > (incubating) 10.0. I can live with that, though it is a bit strange to
> > assemble a vote candidate, knowing that the best vote you can give on
> > that is a -1. So first we need to decide if we would like to have public
> > betas and release candidates in the future or not.
> >
> > After last minute changes: We had a short lived vc4, as of vc3 has been
> > voted down on IPMC level having binary files in the source package.
> > Suddenly a handful of serious issue has appeared. I do not know how can
> > we help on this. There is only one thing I would add here. Please do not
> > hesitate mark every legal related concerns as BLOCKER in JIRA, even if
> > it is not a BLOCKER at all, we can't really let legal issues flying
> > under our radar.
> >
> > I was overall happy with the responsiveness of the community on the
> issues.
> >
> > I think Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 is a great release!
> >
> > Once again, Thank you for all!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> > Release Manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0
> >
> > P.S.: Constructive feedback on the my work and the process are more than
> > Welcome!
> >
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