> Please everyone, go away from Connection JDK/Java with NetBeans. NetBeans is 
> for years an IDE for a lot more languages. [...]
> Yes, I can understand that binding was in the past but that doesn’t make 
> sense anymore nowadays.

+1

--emi

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 8:28 PM Christian Lenz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> TLDR;
> Please everyone, go away from Connection JDK/Java with NetBeans. NetBeans is 
> for years an IDE for a lot more languages. Java should not anymore the main 
> Language that is full featured supported in NetBeans than others that 
> NetBeans supports out of the box. First NetBeans can handle PHP very well, 
> better than JS or other Frameworks like Angularjs, Angular, React or 
> unfortunately Vue which is not supported. It can handle HTML/CSS/LESS/SCSS 
> and C/C++ and Assembler too. NetBeans is an IDE not only for Java developer 
> anymore.
>
> Yes, I can understand that binding was in the past but that doesn’t make 
> sense anymore nowadays.
>
>
> Major versions like 10.0, 11.0 or 12.0 (or which Version we will have later) 
> will include a lot more features with NetCat and 11.1 and 12.1 will implement 
> more new Features too but I think with less NetCat (I don’t know, only 
> guessing, otherwise we will have no real gain for that). I only want to add, 
> to this, that we want 4 releases a year, to be competitve. I only write this 
> to make it clear that 11 is Major with Jakarta I think, C/C++ (Maybe, don’t 
> remember the Roadmap) Bug fixes and misc Features. And 11.1 will have 
> Features and bug fixes too and is not a patch. Patches where, from the 
> history perspective different from 8.0 to 8.1. Please remember 8.2 had 2 
> patches and we are not Talking About 8.3 or 8.4, because only critical bug 
> fixes after the release.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2019 19:03
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
>
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:51, Geertjan Wielenga
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well, since there are two releases of the JDK this here, neatly
> > interspersed in March and September, it seems like a logical approach to
> > follow, with the benefit that we could potentially end up having NetBeans
> > bundles with a JDK, if the stars align. The stars are less likely to align
> > if we completely ignore those specific months -- sure, we could release in
> > July and December instead, but why? March and September are as good as any,
> > and better than most, because of the JDK release cycle.
>
> Completely agree with you there - I was in favour of doing this and
> keeping the version numbers synced for same reason.
>
> On the other hand, the major/minor thing seems odd from a time-based
> release schedule, which is where the idea for quarterly releases came
> from.  The projects that I can think of that do that generally
> publicise feature freeze and release dates well in advance (a year),
> possibly have a "release-ready" master branch, don't guarantee
> features until feature freeze date, and if a feature isn't ready it
> misses that release.  AFAIK the NB10 without .0 came from the idea
> that 2019 releases would be NB11, NB12, NB13 and NB14 - no sense that
> one is more important than another.
>
> At the moment, for example, NB11 mentions J2EE support, but playing
> devils advocate what happens if that misses the release schedule?
> Does that mean NB11 is delayed, or that J2EE now comes in a point
> release, or that NB11.1 now becomes NB12?  That's what I mean about
> the release page feeling somewhere stuck between time-based and
> feature-based.
>
> Anyway, as someone with not much time to put into the project right at
> this moment, I'm not arguing either way - just saying that it still
> appears a source of confusion.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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