Hi Etienne,

Thanks for your question! Yes, PushPull has parallel downloading
capability, so in terms of "pulling" data it definitely has similar
capability to GridFTP. PushPull can't initiate or "push" a transfer
like GridFTP can in that sense, so it's not exactly an apples to
apples comparison.

For the wiki, you can sign up to create an account here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action

Cheers!

Chris

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-----Original Message-----
From: Etienne Koen <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:15 AM
To: Chris Mattmann <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Cc: Shakeh Khudikyan <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: PushPull

>Hi Chris,
>
>Thank you for your response and info! I would be happy to document my
>results and would appreciate it if the community could respond to some of
>my questions I still have.
>
>At the moment it does not look like I have permissions or the
>functionality to create a page... Or I am looking at the wrong place to
>do so :-)
>
>My immediate question is whether pushpull have the parallel capability
>such as GridFTP and how to specify it for the next test phase...
>
>Cheers
>
>Etienne Koen
>Data Processing Systems Engineer
>
>Space Advisory Company
>
>O: +27 (21) 300 0060 I C: +27 (76) 661 0170 I E: [email protected]
>
>________________________________________
>From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:47 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Cc: Etienne Koen; Khudikyan, Shakeh E (398J)
>Subject: FW: PushPull
>
>Etienne,
>
>
>Thank you for sending this along! The crazy part about these types of data
>transfer studies especially with TCP/IP based protocols that aren't
>parallelized
>(e.g., FTP) is that you are limited by what's going on in the surrounding
>network.
>For example see the attached studies my team has published on data
>movement
>over the past 5-7 years and notice a similar type of behavior. Pretty
>interesting
>independent of the family of data transfer you're using.
>
>Take a look at my Dissertation too:
>
>http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/Dissertation.pdf
>
>This concluded that parallel TCP/IP technologies like GridFTP (now
>GlobusOnline)
>and bbFTP performed the best across the public WAN for performance and
>efficiency
>related parameters, whereas if those aren't the overall properties you are
>trying
>to maximize (and instead care about good enough performance, but with ease
>of
>install and use - then things like WebDAV and so forth are probably good
>enough).
>
>I'd be happy to discuss your results more in general. It would be great if
>you
>created a wiki page here:
>
>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OODT/Home
>
>
>To document your testing and results. Thank you and let me know!
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Etienne Koen <[email protected]>
>Date: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:55 AM
>To: Chris Mattmann <[email protected]>
>Cc: Shakeh Khudikyan <[email protected]>
>Subject: PushPull
>
>>Hi Chris and Shakeh,
>>
>>Attached are some of the results which were performed according to the
>>baseline testing requirements. This was simply to transfer a directory of
>>1GB with varying file sizes. For completeness I have gone so far as to
>>transfer files of 1MB each (This scenario might not be very probable for
>>SKA though...). I have noticed a substantiation drop in the transfer rate
>>achieved compared to the 100MB files as well as the transfer rate being
>>quite variable. What would be the main contributor for this? I see that
>>there is a metadata file created for each transfer which might perhaps
>>contribute to the overhead and become quite prominent in the 1000 x 1MB
>>file case. All these tests used the FTP protocol and were performed on
>>the same machine and network link:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For testing single file transfer I found the maximum transfer rate only
>>being achieved for files > 256 MB:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I also monitored the transfer rate of a 8192 MB file which constantly
>>revealed an interesting behaviour of achieving a maximum transfer rate
>>after which the transfer rate then drops. I am also unsure what the cause
>>for this might be as it happened constantly and in both transfer
>>directions:
>>
>>
>>
>>I would greatly appreciate your comments on this and it include it in my
>>report before I submit it during next week.
>>
>>All the best!
>>
>>Cheers
>>Etienne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Etienne Koen
>>Data Processing Systems Engineer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Space Advisory Company
>>
>>O: +27 (21) 300 0060 I C: +27 (76) 661 0170 I E: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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