Ta.

Might be worth putting a few hours work in at ApacheCon with Lewis.

@lewis with this and the distributed FM and stuff, might be worth putting
together a little agenda of stuff we could plan/test/dev whilst we're there.

Tom

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorted
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Chris Mattmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > All of this is looking great, Tom. There’s real
> > substance here and something for us to build on.
> >
> > —
> > Chris Mattmann
> > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/6/16, 7:33 PM, "Tom Barber" <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Alright here's a summary of today's experimentation:
> > >
> > >Created a basic documentation page to test out a few things. Tabs work
> > >quite well, and kbd tags on the radix page look pretty good to attract
> > >users. Clearly that whole section would need more work, its just a test
> > bed
> > >of ideas currently.
> > >
> > >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/documentation.html
> > >
> > >Community page is also tabular, the about page is basically a 1:1 copy
> of
> > >the existing stuff, the team page is cool because the PMC list is
> > generated
> > >directly from the Apache Phonebook (I noticed the one on the main site
> is
> > >already out of date! ;) )
> > >
> > >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/community.html
> > >
> > >
> > >Downloads page, again, this uses a configuration parameter to
> dynamically
> > >generate the links to the correct version and the previous releases down
> > >the right hand side, this is great for the release process as all
> someone
> > >has to do is when a VOTE is accepted and the mirrors are live, is paste
> > >about 3 lines of code into the site and check it in, at which point the
> > >downloads page is up to date once more (although we could probably
> write a
> > >plugin to automate this as well ;))
> > >
> > >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/download.html
> > >
> > >
> > >Anyway, like I said, work in progress, I'm soliciting feedback more than
> > >anything else. In reality the site docs wouldn't live directly under the
> > >components menu heading but it was a good place to put them for now,
> also
> > >it wouldn't take much to have them use the same stylesheets as the main
> > >site and also link back to the main site as well, making them feel more
> > >integrated.
> > >
> > >It needs more diagrams and colour, to break it up still, but I think as
> a
> > >POC it's coming along alright.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> > >[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bingo
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Tom Barber <[email protected]
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Thanks Lewis! I think with stuff like this its hard to fully explain
> > over
> > >> > email without a 10000 word essay.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyway, I said I'd leave it but I got bored so I wondered what else
> > >> Jekyll
> > >> > could do to help us and here's a couple of things I came up with:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> https://github.com/buggtb/oodt-website/blob/gh-pages/_config.yml#L29
> > >> >
> > >> > The downloads page on the CMS is manually updated, but you know me,
> I
> > >> love
> > >> > a bit of automation, so in Jekyll we could dump the release info in
> > here
> > >> > and watch it magically build:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8503756/oodt-website/download.html
> > >> >
> > >> > That way it should be dead simple to keep the download page up to
> > date.
> > >> >
> > >> > I then wondered about other stuff so I looked at the PMC list, it'll
> > get
> > >> > stale easily, so what could I do to sort that out:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/buggtb/oodt-website/blob/gh-pages/_plugins/pcm_generator.rb
> > >> >
> > >> > Greps the new ASF phone book and extracts our PMC members, as I'm a
> > >> giving
> > >> > kind of guy, I'll parametrize it and Joshua or whatever can use it
> as
> > >> well
> > >> > when its done.
> > >> >
> > >> > Currently the PMC list is on the download page, ignore that it was
> > just
> > >> for
> > >> > testing.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyway there you go. Couple more nuggets that could make the website
> > >> > maintenance a whole lot simpler.
> > >> >
> > >> > Tom
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> > >> > [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Tom,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Tom Barber <
> > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >> > <javascript:;>>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > When I took over the chair from SK, my unofficial aim was to use
> > this
> > >> > > chair
> > >> > > > period to try and get the business users involved, my day job
> > >> requires
> > >> > me
> > >> > > > to drive users to our product and get them interested enough to
> > test
> > >> > it,
> > >> > > > whilst OODT isn't commercial, ultimately the goal is the same,
> to
> > >> gain
> > >> > > > users and community members, we need users, and we need users
> who
> > >> don't
> > >> > > > just work in the scientific domain. Whilst the odd person might
> > swing
> > >> > by
> > >> > > > the mailing list, in reality, 99% of users will land on the
> > homepage,
> > >> > and
> > >> > > > that is the determining factor as to whether they bother to
> > >> investigate
> > >> > > > further. Which is why I spend a lot of time prioritising stuff
> > that
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > > > really make a lot of sense to the rest of you! :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > For the record its worth me stating here that I totally understand
> > your
> > >> > > PoV. When you showed me your BI workflow examples way back
> > @ApacheCon I
> > >> > > realized that your use cases were different. It's very refreshing
> to
> > >> see
> > >> > > software re-purposed or presented in a different manner. An eye
> > opener
> > >> so
> > >> > > to speak.
> > >> > > Look forward to seeing what kind of roadmap we come up with
> > @ApacheCon
> > >> > this
> > >> > > year again.
> > >> > > Ta
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> *Lewis*
> > >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> *Lewis*
>

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