Hi Rajith,

On the wiki - it has been suggested on this thread that the wiki be retired
and/or updates not reflected on the new website.

Most of the java devs are very busy working on the 0-10 broker
implementation which is a major effort. Does anyone out there have the
bandwidth to convert/rewrite the Java content on the wiki ?

My team have the knowledge, but not the time just now.
For the .Net, is there a reason why you want to delete the 0-8 code,
given we still have users ? When we have something better I'd think that's
the right thing, but imho better to keep the code we have out there on trunk
until we can gracefully retire it. I didn't think it was causing any issues
where it is ?

Regards,
Marnie

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Rajith Attapattu <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Marnie McCormack
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Sorry to chip in a little late - I've been on vacation.
> >
> > So, the wiki should definitely stay ! A lot of the Java docs are linked
> from
> > end user stuff I use and I'd be very unhappy to see those docs disappear
> > (and you really won't like me when I'm angry) including the java FAQs
> drawn
> > from support questions etc. I promote all docs I write to Apache and link
> > from there so the wiki links are in use.
>
> Nobody is going to remove anything in the wiki !
> However any new documentation should be in the svn docs directory.
> As agreed by the community the docs will be maintained in svn and will
> be released along with the code.
> At some point we need to convert the FAQ's into the docbook format as
> well, since the content could change according to the release.
> I believe it will ensure the FAQ is current at least for each release.
>
> > On the .Net, I have no interest in the 0-10 version but the 0-8 version
> > should stay (docs, code the lot) as it matters and is in production use,
> at
> > least until we have a 0-10 Java broker and an alternative .Net client to
> > interop with it.
>
> In ASF code is never deleted.
> However I strongly feel we should remove links to the old 0-8 and 0-10
> .NET clients from the download page.
> Also we should remove the old .NET client code from the *trunk* as it
> is dead code that is not going to be maintained.
> If anybody needs them, we have release tags that corresponds to each
> release.
> We could also tag the current trunk version before we remove it from the
> tree.
>
> > Bye for now,
> > Marnie
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rajith Attapattu <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I would also remove the links to the old .NET clients from the download
> >> page.
> >> These clients are buggy and unsupported.
> >> It's best we not provide anything at all, rather then providing
> >> something that is known to be buggy and unsupported.
> >>
> >> This is not to disrespect the individuals who have put a lot of effort
> >> into these clients, but rather being pragmatic about what we are able
> >> to do as a community.
> >> With the WCF client and the new .NET binding (over c++) it is unlikely
> >> that the old clients will receive any TLC.
> >> So lets get rid of them from the download pages and the code tree (You
> >> could always get it from the svn history if needed).
> >>
> >> Rajith
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jonathan Robie
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>  > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 14:27 +0100, Robbie Gemmell wrote:
> >> >> On the same page, the link to the wiki should point to
> >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid
> >> >>
> >> >> Overall looks good, I echo Gordon's thoughts, lets get this live ASAP
> >> >> and improve as we go rather than spending too much time polishing it
> >> >> beforehand: anythings better than what we have now and everything is
> >> >> still reachable as long as we link to the wiki.
> >> >>
> >> >> One minor nit, the bullet pointed feature box things on the front
> page
> >> >> dont display in the right place in IE6 and IE7 (or 8 in compatibility
> >> >> mode), the entire containing div drops down the page to where the
> menu
> >> >> stops. I imagine its just a margin/padding+float CSS bug, ill try to
> >> >> take a look tonight if I get a chance, they are still around 1/3rd of
> >> >> all used browsers afterall..now, back to Firefox ;)
> >> >
> >> > Nice catch - and there's a CSS validation error for feature_box in
> >> > the .css stylesheet. I fixed that, I'm asking #asfinfra to refresh
> (it's
> >> > not yet set up for me to do that automagically).
> >> >
> >> > We'll see if that fixes the problem ...
> >> >
> >> > Jonathan
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rajith Attapattu
> >> Red Hat
> >> http://rajith.2rlabs.com/
> >>
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> >
>
>
>
> --
>  Regards,
>
> Rajith Attapattu
> Red Hat
> http://rajith.2rlabs.com/
>
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