Fabien, that's awesome!  I'm glad to hear the progress.

What should we do for the older bugs : 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796546
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796545

Should we close them out?  Or make it into a Meta bug?
There's a number of RTL bugs already filed.

Regards,
Naoki

On Feb 4, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Fabien Cazenave <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 04/02/14 17:32, Axel Hecht wrote:
>> On 2/4/14 5:17 PM, Fabien Cazenave wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> TL;DR: the RTL support and Arabic locale are broken at the moment, but
>>> we could fix it rather quickly — and it would be nice to do so.
>>> 
>>> We used to be RTL-proof in the very early ages of this project and the
>>> Arabic locale was in quite good shape. But as we focused on the
>>> “official” 1.x locales, we lost traction on Arabic and RTL — most apps
>>> don’t display well at all in RTL mode now.
>>> 
>>> Here’s the wiki page and tracking bug for the RTL support:
>>>   https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:B2G/RTL
>>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906270
>>> 
>>> Ahmed Nefzaoui (Tunisian contributor) has started working on RTL patches
>>> and he’s done a very good work so far.
>>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883673
>>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833401
>>> 
>>> My opinion about that is that’s it’s a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem:
>>> we won’t get proper RTL support without supporting Arabic (or Hebrew)
>>> officially, and vice-versa.
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: what about promoting Arabic to an “officially supported
>>> locale” status, include it in our test builds, and get some help from
>>> the Arabic-speaking community to report RTL issues and propose fixes?
>>> 
>>> Ahmed suggested to organize a localization sprint for Firefox OS during
>>> the next Arabic Mozilla meet-up. I think it would be a great opportunity
>>> for a couple Gaia developers and UX engineers to meet the Arabic
>>> community and land the most important RTL fixes while the translation is
>>> being done.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> :kazé
>> 
>> I'm happy to see motion on both Arabic and RTL.
>> 
>> Regarding the localization status, though, there's no such thing as
>> mozilla-supported builds to begin with. As for other status indications,
>> Arabic has and had all branch repositories, it's included in all
>> language files, so builds like those for the Keon do include Arabic.
>> 
>> Not sure what we can do more on the localization front.
>> 
> 
> It does make a difference when a locale is a 1.x-target or not. No 
> RTL-specific bug will be addressed properly if it’s not a blocker, and it 
> will only become a blocker if we have an RTL locale in the, say, 1.4 targeted 
> locale list.
> 
> I understand it’s a product decision. CC’ing Chris Lee.
> 
>> It should make a difference to commit to RTL support on the engineering
>> front, though. Adding a pseudo-localization for RTL on top of
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=900182 would help, and get
>> us out of the chicken and egg between coders not having a complete RTL
>> locale available, and not being able to interact with it.
>> 
>> Axel
> 
> FWIW, we’ve started to add an RTL checkbox to the building blocks, in order 
> to test them in “RTL-English” mode. I’d prefer to rely on a real Arabic 
> locale to have a better user feedback, but having an “RTL-English” locale 
> would help too!
> 
> :kazé
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