Fabrice Desré schrieb:
The situation with updates on b2g is far from being ideal. On one side,
phone manufacturers have little incentive to ship updates for a long
time. On the other side, users legitimately expect to be able to get the
latest version of the OS for as long as their phone works. I think a
reasonable target is to support devices for 2 years.

There is a third side: Our brand is being diluted if it's used on a lot of devices out there that run heavily insecure versions of our software because no updates have been delivered for a long time. We routinely ship updates for sometimes grave security issues every six weeks for our browser-only products, many of those vulnerabilities also affect those phones that sit there proudly with the "Firefox OS" brand printed on them but sadly without any patches for those issues.
We should not routinely have our brand on potentially insecure products.

That said, as Gabriele and others have pointed to, it's at least right now a lot of effort to get official updates shipped by the OEMs, and that's why updates on the mobile market are so drastically lagging. Regulators try to make lives more secure for users by requiring those certifications, but end up making more insecure by making updates so hard. Interesting, isn't it?

I fully think that in the long run, we will need to work out how we can bring the always-up-to-date culture we get used to elsewhere also to the OS on those devices. And enabling users to switch to something that gets them fast updates for Gecko and Gaia is a very good first goal for that, it's awesome we are discussing that!


(As a note, some time ago, I wondered if we could work around the issue of not being able to publish device images by hosting images/packages that only contain the open parts, and with a "lean" script with few prerequisites that would pull the proprietary parts from the device, merge them into the open-only downloaded piece somehow and then flash the resulting full image to the device. That would allow even Gonk updates for those people who want them and have user-flashable devices, without requiring them to do a full build themselves.)


KaiRo

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