Thanks to James for initiating this thread. I fully support that we should start working on this in 2.2, even if we're not able to complete it in the release. There are quite some generic feature gaps in certain apps that don’t really need to be tied to the OS release cycle. This, in the long run, should make the Firefox OS release a lot healthier. Thanks.
-- Thomas Ho Product and Technical Account Management, Devices Mozilla Corporation From: Marco Chen <[email protected]> Date: 2014年10月24日 星期五 下午2:34 To: James Burke <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [b2g] For v2.2: distributable certified apps Hi all, I would like to echo this requirement from James because it is also requested by partners. And the reasons are 1. Partners would like to build their own pre-installed and certified apps for differentiating their own product. And they need a way to upgrade these apps (the tied schedule may push them to ship first with small bugs). The cost of the only way now - FOTA/OTA is expensive then just doing a single application upgrade. 2. In order to co-work with other service providers in the world, partners may need to create their own APIs for fulfilling various requirements. And partners also want to keep Web consistency so their APIs will be certified type only. Due to this vision, their apps can not be installed or upgraded from market place because our capability now. 3. I also think that in the emerging market the narrow bandwidth is not suitable for doing FOTA/OTA. But an upgrade per app may be more easy there. So vote to this requirement. Thanks, Sincerely yours. From: "James Burke" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:07:54 AM Subject: [b2g] For v2.2: distributable certified apps For 2.2, I would like to see an exploration into allowing Gaia apps, and apps that can use certified APIs, to be distributed via marketplace channels, and updated outside full OS updates. That could take a few forms, including just pushing more/all certified APIs to "privileged" status. However, I expect that may not be feasible, so right now I am assuming there will be a continued need for "certified" apps. I wrote up something about this capability here: https://github.com/jrburke/certified-marketplace Feel free to file issues in that repo if you have questions about it. Happy to move the info elsewhere, just wanted to get something up. More importantly, it would be good to figure out the relative priority of this sort of feature for 2.2, which is the primary point of this thread. This sort of capability could be in opposition to some of the UX or product features. For example, I am thinking of the "themeable" feature, to allow apps to be themed, and to have that theming coordinated across apps, and for apps to have a specific dependency on a theme.gaiamobile.org <http://theme.gaiamobile.org> "app". However, this type of app distribution capability is very fitting for our mission, as it allows more people to make certified apps (after being vetted in some way) and to allow those apps to get updates outside of full OS updates. --- If this is just too big of a project for 2.2, then I would like to get an awareness or some sort of agreement for allowing individual apps to follow this path, and to realize it may mean those apps are not able to meet some other goals if they pursue this route. Specifically, I work on the email app, and I believe we could still get to a "updatable via marketplace", and I would like to try for that for 2.2: Email app goes privileged, and the app just lives with what is available to privileged apps. I think this is possible and still have a great, usuable email app. However, it means email not picking up any gaia-wide efforts that my require certified stuff. For 2.2, that could mean things like theming and if custom elements are not fully enabled for non-certified use, any common building blocks. Even if custom elements are available for 2.2, I am sure there will be other things in other releases, just pointing out the need to get wider agreement this pathway is OK for some apps that may be seen as part of "gaia". It also means possible modifications to the l10n.js capability to load localizations from app storage, and to do downloads of localization bundles from somewhere. While I am willing to do the modifications, it would still require some impact on reviewers' time, and likely some server work. To clarify: I want to preserve the existing localizer workflow, just want to modify how an app pulls in the final localizations, see above link for some more background. --- In summary: I would like this “certified” capability considered for 2.2. I am not expecting an immediate resolution, as all the 2.2 work needs to be balanced in total, and is still in planning. This is just to get it on the radar and to call out some of the tensions. Also, dev could start some plumbing now while planning is still in progress, and where it makes sense for the email app, I will start exploring in these areas. James (sending to dev-b2g, as it seems the most appropriate for what this capability spans, and want to avoid cross posting to multiple lists) _______________________________________________ dev-b2g mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g _______________________________________________ dev-b2g mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g
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