On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Benjamin Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 7 July 2015 at 07:21, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Generally speaking, CDNs use a new URL any time you want to change the
>> file contents.
>
>
> Alex Russell claims this impression is outdated, that the vast majority of
> modern CDNs do allow for stable URLs. How can we get some objective data on
> this?
>
>> Very few developers will think about how to update the icon when they
>> originally deploy the website. That won't be something that they think
>> about until it actually comes time to update the branding, which often
>> won't be long after they first deploy.
>
> That is probably true.
>
>> > It says that the user agent may
>> > "periodically check if the contents of a manifest has been modified
>> > (e.g.,
>> > by honoring HTTP cache directives associated with the manifest or by
>> > checking for updates after the web application has been launched)".
>>
>> Does any other implementation actually do that?
>
> No not as far as I know, it's still untested. Chrome doesn't currently
> implement the updating, though I understand they plan to in the future. I'm
> trying to find out about Opera.

Given this, and given that I don't actually see a downside to
re-downloading the HTML page again, I definitely think that that's
what we should do.

At the very least I'd like to see solid data on that CDNs most of the
time support updating the manifest in-place, and that other browsers
have near-term plans on implementing updates by re-pinging the
manifest URL.

Also keep in mind that for websites that don't use manifests, but
instead use meta tags, we'll have to re-download the HTML.

/ Jonas
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