On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:14 PM Jeff Muizelaar <jmuizel...@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> What percentage of the space used for artifacts is actually builds
> that are used for mozregression vs other stuff (like debug builds)? Is
> there a way that we could somehow have different expiraries for the
> different kinds of data? 1 year for logs, debug symbols and debug
> builds seems very generous but 8 months for builds for mozregression
> seems stingy.
>

Keep in mind this is only temporary, with every passing day we approach a
full year's worth of builds again. As a longer term solution to this
particular problem, I wonder if we can get mozregression to farm out
missing builds on try.. then there would be no limit to how far back it
could go.


On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:01 PM Kartikaya Gupta <kgu...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying. If nightlies are still available for that
> > period then I guess that's ok. It will be a slight inconvenience but
> > probably not worth the effort to and save those builds for a few
> > months.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:53 AM Chris Cooper <c...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've received multiple replies about mozregression, so I'll provide
> > > some more context.
> > >
> > > Taskcluster artifacts expire by default after one year. This means the
> > > legacy cluster currently provides access to artifacts from June 26 to
> > > Nov 9, 2019 (Nov 9 was the cutover date to the new deployment). By
> > > shutting down the legacy cluster on July 3, we will be removing access
> > > to just over 4 months of artifacts. Note that this won't affect
> > > separate release archives like
> > > http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/. The end result for
> > > mozregression is that it will have fewer choices for intermediate
> > > builds while bisecting if it needs to reach back into that 4-month
> > > window and will need to rely on the nightlies.
> > >
> > > I looked at the specific S3 stats for older artifacts. I can't break
> > > mozregression usage out specifically, but over the past year we (all
> > > parties) have only accessed 19.04 GB of the 971.77 TB that are older
> > > than 180 days.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > --
> > > coop
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:41 AM Kartikaya Gupta <kgu...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do these legacy artifacts include firefox builds that are used by
> > > > mozregression? It looks like there's still a reference to the old
> > > > taskcluster.net URL at
> > > >
> https://github.com/mozilla/mozregression/blob/3df977cf7b9c50bdbe8495cde17baeb6c5724be2/mozregression/config.py#L23
> > > > which gets used. It would be valuable to ensure mozregression can
> > > > continue bisecting old builds after this decommissioning happens.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:13 PM Chris Cooper <c...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey all,
> > > > >
> > > > > You may recall that last fall we redeployed Taskcluster into two
> > > > > distinct clusters, one to support Firefox CI and another to handle
> > > > > Community projects[1]. We left the legacy deployment running to
> > > > > provide access to CI artifacts that would only be reachable via the
> > > > > old taskcluster.net interface.
> > > > >
> > > > > It turns out that we (Mozilla) don't access the legacy data very
> > > > > often: we are storing close to a petabyte of older artifacts in AWS
> > > > > and yet we access less than 25 GB of it. It costs us thousands of
> > > > > dollars every month for that storage, and several hundred dollars
> more
> > > > > to continue running the services to access it, so we've made a
> > > > > decision to decommission the legacy Taskcluster deployment a few
> > > > > months earlier than planned.
> > > > >
> > > > > We'll be shutting down the legacy services on July 3rd, 2020.
> That's
> > > > > one week from today. A week later on July 10, we will begin
> deleting
> > > > > the old artifacts.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are one of the few individuals who does access artifacts
> from
> > > > > the legacy cluster and haven't already spoken to us about
> > > > > alternatives, please reach out before next Thursday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note: this will *not* affect day-to-day CI on either the Firefox
> CI or
> > > > > Community clusters at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > --
> > > > > Chris Cooper
> > > > > Manager, Taskcluster @ Mozilla
> > > > > <c...@mozilla.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.
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