On 8/28/23 16:12, Jake Freeland wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:19 AM Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com
<mailto:i...@bsdimp.com>> wrote:
Added cc for Jake
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:17 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <da...@freebsd.org
<mailto:da...@freebsd.org>> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 08:29:48PM +0000, Warner Losh wrote:
> commit af93fea710385b2b11f0cabd377e7ed6f3d97c34
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> timerfd: Move implementation from linux compat to sys/kern
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> Move the timerfd impelemntation from linux compat code to
sys/kern.
Could you quickly summarize why we need these linuxish bits in
FreeBSD?
We've lived for years without it. Had expected to find the
rationale
in DR but alas. :( Thanks,
The amount of software designed exclusively for Linux grows every day.
Support for FreeBSD is almost always done on behalf of FreeBSD
contributors, not the program developers.
I do not want to play the cat-and-mouse game of constantly updating
shims so we can support Linux software. I would rather take the
sensible* parts of Linux and integrate them into core FreeBSD.
My goal is not to turn FreeBSD into Linux, but rather to stay relevant
in an age where most younger developers don't even know what BSD is. We
should spend more resources on Linux program support, so younger
audiences can use their Discord web apps natively on FreeBSD.
Absorbing "linuxish" bits is controversial and I think that is a
tragedy. In my eyes, having "linuxish" features is one of the best ways
to ease the jump between Linux and FreeBSD, and minimize the maintenance
needed for FreeBSD support.
+1. We're not in the game of adopting Linuxisms for the sake of it, but
rather where they make sense (either they're obviously a good thing, or
they simply make it easier to write portable scripts/code without
damaging the quality of our code, like long options).
Remaining different for the sake of remaining different is way more
silly than adopting sensible features.
*
https://ariadne.space/2021/06/06/actually-bsd-kqueue-is-a-mountain-of-technical-debt/ <https://ariadne.space/2021/06/06/actually-bsd-kqueue-is-a-mountain-of-technical-debt/>
Jake Freeland
Thanks,
Kyle Evans
