Works for me. That means that we can still start with UX/PM and just switch
to dev as soon as we're done, correct?

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On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Shane Tomlinson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I facilitate 4 of the above meetings:
>
> * Monday web UX meeting
> * Monday web coordination
> * Thursday frontend standup
> * Thursday web bug triage
>
> A month or so ago, we decided to split the Monday Web Coordination meeting
> into two halves, one focused on UX/PM issues, the other focused on
> Ops/General Dev. The UX/PM half starts at 16.30 London time so that Ryan
> Feeley can attend before the Fx UX meeting at 17.00. The Ops/General dev
> begins at 17.00.
>
> The last couple of weeks, the UX/PM meeting has finished early, but we
> haven't started the "Ops/General dev" meeting until 17.00.
>
> These two meetings have a big lull in the middle, a lull that's not long
> enough for people to go about their daily business, but long enough to feel
> wasteful. From what I understand, the Ops portion is largely duplicated
> with the Tuesday Backend meeting. Saying the same thing twice isn't really
> a lot of fun.
>
> I propose we reduce the scope of the Ops/General dev meeting so that John
> and Jon's time is not wasted saying the same thing twice and if we finish
> the UX/PM half early, we can just plow forward without missing anybody.
>
> Concrete proposal:
>
> Monday UX/PM meeting->Monday General Dev meeting. John and Jon's backend
> contributions can be saved for the backend meeting to avoid saying it
> twice. Their attendance would be optional, I enjoy having both of them
> there and value their input, but would not be upset if the decide their
> time is better spent elsewhere. We'll keep a full hour booked, but if we
> finish early, we get out early.
>
> Yae? Nay? Alternatives?
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Ryan Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 25/10/16 17:08, Ryan Kelly wrote:
>> > * We've got a lot of meetings.  Can we optimize some away, or
>> >   perhaps reduce the list of attendees?  We agreed to continue
>> >   this discussion offline.
>>
>> In the spirit of which, this mailing list is as good a place as any to
>> continue the discussion!
>>
>> The meetings that the FxA team currently has on its books include:
>>
>> * Monday web UX meeting
>> * Monday web coordination
>> * Monday show & tell
>> * Monday sprint planning / retrospective
>> * Tuesday backend catchup
>> * Thursday frontend standup
>> * Thursday web bug triage
>> * Thursday product meeting
>>
>> Which is indeed a lot!  Did I miss any?
>>
>> Some options for reducing meeting burden include:
>>
>> * Narrowing the scope, e.g. making more of the meetings optional
>>   for more people.
>>
>> * Cancelling some entirely, and moving their contents into
>>   e.g. async communication methods.
>>
>> But I don't want to dictate anything here.  I'm open to any and all
>> suggestions.  So - thoughts?
>>
>>
>>   Cheers,
>>
>>     Ryan
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