This makes me very happy, as backwards compat for performance is a huge bit
of complexity.

We should have a blanket message or something for when we're attempting to
connect to an unsupported platform -- that the platform is unsupported and
that they should use Firefox X host. Any ideas here?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Dave Camp <[email protected]> wrote:

> For the Firefox TVs in market I think you should identify the latest ESR
> release that has support those televisions and recommend that your
> developers use those.
>
> -dave
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Shih-Chiang Chien <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ryan,
> >
> > There are still Firefox OS TV (2015/2016) in market that supports WebIDE
> > debugging. Glad to hear that you keep the backwards capability in devtool
> > architecture. Breaking the existing functionality will make the end user
> > really upset and it'll hurt Mozilla's reputation.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Shih-Chiang Chien
> > Mozilla Taiwan
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:29 PM, J. Ryan Stinnett <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Keep in mind that we still want to support Firefox for Android back to
> >> release channel, so we still want to keep traits in general. That's a
> >> much smaller time window than we supported for Firefox OS, so it
> >> should allow for some simplification.
> >>
> >> Also, a number of our traits are used by Valence as flags to tell the
> >> client "that's not implemented yet", so those are important to keep to
> >> avoid breaking this use case.
> >>
> >> So, I think the type of compatibility that could now be removed are
> >> things where the protocol semantics changed in some Gecko older than
> >> release channel and the trait is not useful for saying "I don't
> >> support feature X".
> >>
> >> I have updated our backward compatibility page with this information:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/DevTools/Backwards_Compatibility
> >>
> >> - Ryan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Joe Walker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > TL;DR: Yes, if that helps.
> >> >
> >> > Support for any fxos debugees is always possible using the 'right'
> >> debugger
> >> > version.
> >> > Maintaining strict backwards compatibility just made it easier for
> >> people
> >> > that didn't want to find the right debugger version.
> >> >
> >> > So I think we should feel free to remove the maintenance burden of
> >> > supporting older fxos debugees. That doesn't mean we need to rip it
> all
> >> out
> >> > tomorrow, but we shouldn't put any significant effort into backwards
> >> compat
> >> > for fxos from now.
> >> >
> >> > There are likely to be nuances to this which we can discuss, but in
> >> > principle the answer your question is "Yes, if that helps".
> >> >
> >> > Joe.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:20 PM J. Ryan Stinnett <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Nick Fitzgerald
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Perhaps we can now remove remote debugger protocol compatibility
> >> support
> >> >> > for legacy fxos debuggees?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll bring up this topic at next week's DevTools meeting.
> >> >>
> >> >> - Ryan
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