Hi everyone,

The main advantage of InnoDB is engine specific row-locking feature, as opposed 
to table-locking way in MyISAM. Meaning while one query is busy inserting or 
updating a row, another query can update a different row at the same time in 
InnoDB.

There were some cases when due to too many update requests MyISAM tables were 
locked fully under heavy load. Switching to InnoDB helped to increase 
multi-user concurency and performance. So now we follow a simple rule - all 
writable tables are InnoDB. 

Additional factor - InnoDB tables support DB transactions and eShop uses 
transactions in order saving process (oxorder::recalculateOrder()). So while 
theoretically possible to switch back to MyISAM for some tables I would not 
recommend doing that.

It might be helpful I found some quick info on InnoDB configuration:
http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/11/01/innodb-performance-optimization-basics/

Regards
Tomas Liubinas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:dev-general-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kliebenstein Sven
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [oxid-dev-general] storage enginges [T-W1V47SNBVS-96]
> 
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> We're currently hosting the shops on our own, so we're not facing these
> problems, but I suppose you're right when it comes to external hosting
> partners.
> The answers to your questions would also be interesting for us...so OXID,
> what do you say?
> 
> 
> Cheers, Sven
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [email protected] [mailto:dev-general-
> [email protected]] Im Auftrag von anzido GmbH
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2010 16:01
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [oxid-dev-general] storage enginges [T-W1V47SNBVS-96]
> 
> Hi Sven,
> 
> yes - that's exactly what we found out, too. But with customers on managed
> servers it's not always that easy to have those settings changed ... - so
> before I start blaiming the hosters I'd rather like to know OXID's reasons
> for switching storage engines before. Cause I suspect that the gain of
> performance might be that small that a simple back-switch to MyISAM in
> most cases might be the easier and better way.
> 
> And for that reason I'd also like to know if there ar any other reasons
> apart from performance which make InnoDB eg. for oxarticles necessary.
> 
> 
> Beste Grüße aus Dortmund!
> Andreas Ziethen | Geschäftsführung
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> -----Ursprüngliche Daten-----
> Datum: 11.05.2010 15:47:31
> Von: Kliebenstein Sven <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [oxid-dev-general] storage enginges
> Vorgang: T-W1V47SNBVS-96
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have faced the same problem as you mentioned when using InnoDB
> > tables in OXID. If you're using a Not-InnoDB-Optimized-MySQL-Server, the
> default settings are definitely not usable. The usage of InnoDB tables in
> an non-optimized MySQL-Server makes things more worse than using standard
> MyISAM tables. For us, we're always optimizing the settings of your
> servers before installing the shop. You can get a list of all available
> InnoDB settings from MySQL by executing this query: show variables like
> 'innodb%'; The documentation for these options is available from the mysql
> website:
> > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/innodb-parameters.html
> > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/innodb-buffer-pool.html
> >
> > There are also some tuning tools available, just have a look for:
> > - tuning-primer
> > - mysqltuner (http://mysqltuner.pl/mysqltuner.pl)
> >
> >
> > Just my 2 cents...
> > Sven
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von anzido
> > GmbH
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2010 12:57
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: [oxid-dev-general] storage enginges [T-W1V47SNBVS-96]
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > since a while I notice that OXID does change storage engines for more
> and more tables from MyISAM to InnoDB.
> > I'd like to get some explanation why this is done, presumably due to
> performance issues, I guess ... but some more detailed information would
> be nice.
> >
> > I'd also like to know if and which tables really HAVE to be InnoDB - e.
> g. for transaction reasons or whatever.
> >
> > The background for my question is that we discover more and more
> performance problems with those InnoDB tables cause many hosters do use
> MyISAM optimized MySQL-Settings which often lead to big problems on large
> InnoDB tables. ProfiHost for example is one of those.
> >
> > Beste Grüße aus Dortmund!
> > Andreas Ziethen | Geschäftsführung
> >
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