Hi,

On Firefox OS I'm using a stumbler application for the MLS :
https://github.com/clochix/FxStumbler
It can display some points on the map and it's using OSM services.

Ooops, that sounds illegal too:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy

"Requirements

Heavy use (e.g. distributing an app that uses tiles from openstreetmap.org) is *forbidden* without prior permission from the System Administrators.

..."

So maybe FxStumbler got permission somehow; I wonder if Marketplace checks.

Regardless, there are probably few enough users of FxStumbler for now that this abuse of OpenStreetMap resources, if, in actuality, it is an abuse, does not matter greatly.


FxStumbler isn't available on the market. It needs permissions that only certified apps are able to use, when they are in the store.
You can only get it from GitHub.

I cannot evaluate how far the usage of OSM in MozStumbler and FxStumbler is illegal. But discussion is always good.
-> so you could open an issue on GitHub to inform clochix about it.


*1) *Of course they can be reused.

Okay. So, unless I hear otherwise, I will presume that the data are (C) OSM and the tiles are provided without any additional (c). Cool. Now to figure out how to get some tiles...

NO. THIS IS WRONG. CORRECTED BELOW.

I was talking about MLS tiles here.
There are two layers of tiles: One showing the coverage points (MLS) and OSM provided by Mapbox.


And about everything else:
I thought you were asking whether you could use such a map in your app.
Which should be possible as far as I understand it, since each user of your app is able to load the map from mapbox through your app.
(it's not included in your app and each user accesses the map independently.
I mean why shouldn't you be allowed to let users cache OSM maps through your app? OSMAnd is doing so as well. It saves vector maps on your sd card. And it is a successful, commercial app in the play store.
Or are they paying for the access to OSM?

Pls ask someone with more knowledge about this topic though,
since I'm not a jurist.


I'm sorry for offending you with my last sentence in my last email...

(I just wanted to tell you that you were debating with yourself on the possible reasons/answers to your questions instead of waiting for an answer. But I make this mistake myself to often and I definitely didn't want to lecture you for it. I often debate too much as well.)

Regards,
Felix
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