Hi Asaf,

thanks a lot for your offer. I have to admit that I didn't realised it the first time you mentioned it, even though I remember that you sent a mail recently concerning RTL support.

As your budget is specific to fix this issue I don't want to add it into the budget as it only holds a calculation for general things.

Instead we will have to think about what is needed to be done and then find a process how to reach this goal. This process should then be funded by WMIL.

I have to admit that I currently have no idea where there are problems with LTR - I always thought of ZIM just being a container - it doesn't process the data you put into it. SO if you put in LTR text you will get out LTR text again. What we would need though is a hebrew/arab/yiddish... stemmer for the fulltext search index creation and of course support on the reader application. But this is Kiwix (which as far as I know supports LTR because it was used by MoulinWiki) or the webbrowser when using zimreader.

Maybe the right way of spending the WMIL budget would be to fly you into the next Developer Meeting where this issue can be discussed and hopefully solved. I really think we need a direct discussion between you, Tommi and Emmanuel.

Anyway, let's discuss that during the Wikimedia Conference. I am looking forward meeting you.


Greets,


Manuel



Am 23.03.2010 23:55, schrieb Asaf Bartov:
I may have mentioned this before, but I'll state it again:

Wikimedia Israel has set aside funds (on the order of $3000) to support
development of OpenZIM.  We hope to encourage work on the specific
issues that still hamper successful deployment of right-to-left
Wikipedia (Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, Yiddish), and I was hoping to discuss
the specifics with Manuel and whoever else will be attending the
upcoming conference in Berlin.

    Asaf

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Tommi Mäkitalo <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi again,

    and also this is very good. It would be really great, if we can get
    sponsorship for even a part for this. Then we can concentrate better
    on our
    work for openzim without paying for it ourself.

    Tommi

    Am Dienstag 23 März 2010 11:21:19 schrieb Manuel Schneider:
     > Dear all,
     >
     > based on
     > a) our first experience of 2009 and
     > b) our plans for 2010 (as existing so far)
     >
     > I have made a budget plan for 2010.
     >
     > Last year we had a budget - mainly based on the estimated cost of a
     > small Developers Meeting and the server cost - of 4000 CHF (~
    2800 EUR).
     > We got an extra 1000 CHF (~ 700 EUR) to produce the Wikipedia DVD for
     > LinuxTag.
     >
     > As our team grew (which is great) and we see more opportunities to
     > present ourselves to fully reach our potential I have made a more
     > "professional" calculation.
     > The biggest difference compared to last year are the Developer
    Meetings.
     > I have requested quotations from conference venues and used these
     > figures for the budget and I calculated with 10 attendees, so these
     > costs are about four times higher than 2009, when we made
    everything on
     > our own including catering and had a room in a nearby company for
    free.
     >
     > I also added more events to participate such as Wikimedia Conference,
     > LinuxTag (we were there 2009, but it was not in the budget) and
    Wikimania.
     >
     > Please review the budget and make your comments. I need your
    approval of
     > it, so I can send it on to Wikimedia CH so we can hope to get the
    money.
     >
     > If you have more ideas for sponsors (maybe the Wikimedia Foundation
     > wants to cover part of it) please speak up now.
     >
     > A last comment:
     > This budget is quite high, but my aim was to make it a "top
    budget", so
     > we calculate all possible costs but will always spend less money
    than this.
     >
     > Here you go: http://openzim.org/Budget_2010
     >
     > Regards,
     >
     >
     > Manuel

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