2011/8/6 Tomasz Finc <[email protected]>

> I'm going to pull out some of the discussion points from the notes for
> wider discussion.
>
> * there is little support from the WMF
>
> : This is always going to be a subjective answer but lets keep in mind
> that the WMF has been sponsoring work for improving Kiwix, expanding
> the Collections extension to support openZIM, and improving Article
> selection.
>
> Each one of those plays a key role in the offline content pipeline.
> Non engineering wise we've been connecting with the English, Spanish,
> and Portuguese projects so that we can help release new collection.
> We've also been working with eReadia and a whole host of others to
> better understand the offline space. Everyone can always do more but
> its important to choose what you work on and make that work well.
>
> I think the bigger discussion point can be is if the WMF doing enough
> and if not knowing why.
>
> * the promised things like regular ZIM dumps sohuld be finally done by
> WMF to support the spread of the software / project
>
> : The current XML dumps is system is fairly broken and has been a
> nightmare to manage over the last couple of years. And if you think
> the XML system is bad then don't even look at the HTML generation
> system. Instead of pushing more work into it we've opted to go for a
> much simpler route. Allow the collections infrastructure to generate
> full project files. Using the existing system we make the workflow
> much easier for anyone wanting openZIm files while at the same time
> not making our infrastructure more complicated then it needs to be.
>
> * openZIM and Kiwix are hardly able to cope with the expectations due
> to missing developers - not only software-wise but also concerning
> documentation
>
> Totally agree. We've made some amazing progress on both the Kiwix
> betas and Collections extension but we can still do more. I think we
> have to look at the engagement that we do (LinuxTag, Wikimania, Berlin
> Dev Conf, beta testing, blog posts, etc) and really assess whats
> working and whats not. The chapters can do a lot here to fund
> initiatives and help run them.
>
> * reimbursement for the server to build ZIM files
>
> +1
>
> * house the Kiwix server in a NOC
>
> +1 .. I've said for a while that we should just move it over to
> download.wikipedia.org
>
> * restructure the Offline pages on Meta wiki:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects
>
> Who is owning this piece? I'd love to add my ideas about how to go about
> it.
>
Jessie Wild (cc) & myself had some ideas written in her notebook.

>
> * writing proposal for a contractor on openZIM
>
> Looking over http://openzim.org/Roadmap its bit hard to know what's
> happening post Wikimania. Whats the future look like?
>
> Eager to hear other peoples thoughts.
>
> --tomasz
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks for publishing this Manuel. Having this available while be
> > remote is huge.
> >
> > --tomasz
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Manuel Schneider
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> here is the Etherpad documentation of the openZIM meeting at Wikimania
> >> right now:
> >>
> >> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/openZIM-Developer-Meeting-2011
> >>
> >>
> >> /Manuel
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> Manuel Schneider
> >>
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