Hi Marvin,

thanks for your feedback. Please see my comments below.

Am 13.02.2012 um 13:14 schrieb Magnolia Forums (on behalf of Marvin Kerkhoff):

> 1. It would be realy great if you don't have to click on the Areas to Edit. 
> If you can handle this with the hover state you can click and navigate also 
> in the edit mode. For the most customers the navigation insite edit mode is 
> an must beautiful way to easy edit a site. You don't need to hint this and i 
> think the usability where better. 

We might introduce a hover state eventually, if we can resolve the issues that 
this brings (see my earlier remarks in Matt's email). For 4.5, we wanted to 
stay true to the 4.4 family and felt that introducing an entirely new way of 
navigating within page editing would be too much for a mere dot release, in 
particular because we might have to change it again once we're clear on where 
5.0 takes us.

> 
> 2. I don't like the bottom "Add Compontent" styling. It is whery strange 
> because all other markers are in an other styling. 

It does work very well, though, as our tests have shown. The dotted area is 
immediately recognized as placeholder. We added a bar on top because else the 
placeholder would be considered part of the component before. With the bar, the 
placeholder is clearly an equal among peers.

> 
> 3. Is it possible to get some parameters like color="" in the bars. I think 
> in a very green layout it is better to have some blue lines or red for 
> example. 

You can always change the Css. The bars do have a slight gradient image in the 
background, however, to make them stand out a bit more. But you can change 
this, if you desire so.

> 4. I think it where better when you have all bars visible in "movement"-Mode. 
> Otherwise the double clicking i need to move the element to another section 
> is confusing. Please add a focus event and delete this click events to 
> visible this parts.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here; you cannot move a component 
outside of the group it is a child of. This, btw, is one of the areas where we 
think the 4.5 editor really helps: it makes it clear to which area/group a 
component belongs to and thus makes it clear where you can move your component 
to and where not.

> 9. I don't know when, which bar is visible and when it isn't. Please answer 
> about the logic.

With 4.5, just click on the element you want to edit. You get its component 
bar, the bar of all siblings and the area bar of the surrounding group. In 
addition, a placeholder marks where new components can be added. Your attention 
is focused on what you want to edit, the borders of the group your component 
belongs to are clearer now as well.

There are some difficult, nested components - teaser groups, etc. These were 
difficult to grasp, comprehend and edit before and we're still looking for a 
better, more convincing solution to deal with them. Some of the problems we 
currently have in the templates, however, are due to the fact that we didn't 
have proper areas and no optional areas.

Thanks
Andreas

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