FYI my reason for delaying further changes and to focus on a 3.1
version tested and deployed with jackrabbit 1.2 is essentially the new
clustering support in jackrabbit (with 1.2 you can easily setup more
jackrabbit instances pointing to the same mysql db). IMHO this is a
feature that worths a new release.

I totally agree.

BTW  jackrabbit 1.1 and 1.2 are declared as a drop in replacement for
previous versions, I think we should definitively try new versions and
start reporting migration problems to them, they will probably take
care of that.

Sounds reasonable.


fabrizio





On 1/18/07, Philipp Bracher <[email protected]> wrote:

On 18.01.2007, at 15:18, Sameer Charles wrote:

> Sure, it depends on the release plan. We can always move features
> or fixes which needs much more changes to future versions.
>
>> That is why we bring the new jackrabbit version in 3.1 and not in
>> 3.0 branch. Anyway we need to think about to facilitate migration.
>> Perhaps dropping a migrate module jar into the 3.0 instance will
>> do the job. This module could provide a migrate tool where you
>> select what content you like to migrate and thats it.
>
> I am not sure, I think it would be the best if we delegate upgrade/
> migration to core + modules instead of separate tool like what we
> have now.
> we need to make sure that basic repository can be migrated without
> any effort from the users who are upgrading, in addition all
> modules / module vendors should take care of auto migration (any
> config changes etc..).
>

I had more the case in mind, where you can't omit migration through
activation (like incompatible jackrabbit version), but in general the
update by dropping new core/module jars is much the better choice.
They will do the incremental update on the current instance.

Philipp

>
> Cheers
> - Sameer
>
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Philipp Bracher wrote:
>
>>> There are other feature set which must be implemented for 3.1
>>
>> If we plan a 3.2 with the more complex extensions, we could
>> release a 3.1 soon. I'm afraid that the release of 3.1 will take
>> again for ever if we put to much into it and do major architecture
>> changes like activation. In my opinion we should stick to the
>> architecture we have in 3.0 for the 3.1 release but improve the
>> product by doing the easy todos bringing the biggest benefit.
>>
>>> from my side
>>> - Transactional activation (high priority)
>>> - compatibility with webSphere (blocker)
>>> - WebDAV
>>>
>>> So I dont think it will be that soon.
>>> I wasn't able to move to even Jackrabbit 1.1 without breaking
>>> existing versions, we have to think for the people who are
>>> already using magnolia 3.0.x in production.
>>
>> That is why we bring the new jackrabbit version in 3.1 and not in
>> 3.0 branch. Anyway we need to think about to facilitate migration.
>> Perhaps dropping a migrate module jar into the 3.0 instance will
>> do the job. This module could provide a migrate tool where you
>> select what content you like to migrate and thats it.
>>
>> The discussion has started ;-)
>>
>> Philipp Bracher
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> - Sameer
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Philipp Bracher wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18.01.2007, at 12:54, Fabrizio Giustina wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/18/07, Philipp Bracher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I have created the 3.0 branch in svn. The trunk is now the new
>>>>>> 3.1
>>>>>> version (poms need to be updated). Our plan is to keep the 3.0
>>>>>> branch
>>>>>> as stable as possible (only bugfixes with small impact).
>>>>>
>>>>> nice, so can we try upgrading to new deps on trunk? (jackrabbit
>>>>> 1.2 is
>>>>> on the way, and it will also brings in lucene 2). If no other big
>>>>> changes are coming at the moment it would be great to release a
>>>>> 3.1
>>>>> version with these updated dependencies soon.
>>>>
>>>> Yes we can update the trunk in my opinion. If this works fine
>>>> this could really be a reason for releasing 3.1 with some other
>>>> smaller new features and bugfixes.
>>>>
>>>> We will try to define the feature set of 3.1 next week. some
>>>> first ideas:
>>>> - links to other repositories (fck editor support)
>>>> - advanced search (nearly ready as a separate module)
>>>> - usability (keep selected path ,...
>>>> - better main bar (direct activation, flexible functions adding)
>>>>
>>>> Philipp Bracher
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>>>
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