On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:28 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> From what I'm getting from Randell and Ekr's feedback, it sounds like
> getting the smoke tests for the full stack of webrtc is the priority, not
> the crashtests. I think that makes logical sense as the primary focus area,
> although I should note that given the high bug rates for crashes, I do
> think we need to continuously burn through expanding the crashtest
> automation to protect ourselves carefully from crash regressions. From the
> QA side, what I'd like to see is a combination of both ideas proposed to
> achieve the joint balance of effective sunny day automation + protection
> against crash regressions to achieve the benefits of both areas.
>
> My suggestion I would go for is something along the lines of this:
>
> 1. Any work Henrik already started for certain crashtests (since I know
> he's got a few in queue) - finish those off
>

I think it depends on how long this takes. We are already suffering from
this now, so if it means that
we won't see a start of functional testing till next week (I'm assuming
that Henrik isn't taking TG off)
then I would prefer to just suspend the crashtests.


2. Henrik shifts focus towards smoke test automation for the full stack,
> I'll finish off the gUM smoke test automation (which is 90% done).
> 3. We establish a review policy that any patches that can definitely have
> a crashtest associated with them has to be included on check-in by the
> developer building the patch. If the patch comes in without a crashtest
> that can indeed possibly have one, the patch gets a review- until the test
> is included. That will balance both validating that the patch actually does
> work at check-in, but also starts to burn through progressively building
> out a crashtest regression automation suite.
>
> I don't really understand what this means. I agree that if a crashtest
exists, it should pass before
we submit the patch. Do you mean something else?

-Ekr


> Does that work? I do understand the concerns Ekr and Randell raise, but I
> also don't want to take risks on crash regressions too much given the high
> crash bug rate, even with the feature currently prefed off.
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