Sorry for being relatively cryptic in my original message.

What I meant by "not good for market adoption" is that Microsoft, after suffering a setback in the W3C, has decided that it's better to try to fragment the market by deploying an intentionally non-interoperable implementation than it is to make the relatively minor compromises necessary to play nice with the rest of the world.

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On 1/20/13 19:26, Maire Reavy wrote:
I'm not convinced this tells us anything about market adoption. There's nothing new here IMO other than there is now a plugin demo to go along with the old CU-RTC Web proposal. The folks involved in this demo are still very active members of the working groups defining WebRTC.

For those who haven't been following this story in the press: Microsoft basically coded up a demo using plugins to show off CU-RTC Web (an alternative, lower level API to PeerConnection -- one of the major building blocks for WebRTC) and is trying to re-argue the same points in the press now that they argued several months ago to the working group with no new news, information, or insights. Last time we discussed this in the working group, several of us said that there were some interesting ideas in CU-RTC Web that we may want to look at as an extention to WebRTC after our work defining PeerConnection is complete (or at least a version 1 of the spec is complete). In short, CU-RTC Web didn't enable any use cases that PeerConnection didn't handle; the Peer Connection API would be more easily understood and used than the CU-RTC Web API by the typical web/app developer; and the SDP ugliness that Microsoft complains about (which is hidden from web/app developers using the API) also potentially eases interop with legacy SIP equipment, which many working group members think could be useful in promoting adoption of WebRTC.

I'm not looking to start a discussion of PeerConnection vs CU-RTC Web here. The working group mailing lists are the best place for any discussion like that. I just wanted to provide some of the counterargument to the argument Microsoft makes in the article below.

Having said all that, anything that inspires the working group members to move a little faster in discussions and decision making is a good thing IMO. :-)

-Maire


On 1/20/2013 1:31 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
Not good news for market adoption...

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/microsoft-goes-its-own-way-with-web-audiovideo-spec-despite-w3c-rebuff/

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