On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Ralph Giles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 13-06-21 7:02 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > > Seriously, why not put it in Firefox and develop this in an agile way, > just let it keep getting better, break the bitstream whenever for now, just > put it in and iterate. We need to realize that a successful video codec is > partially a technical problem and partially a problem of getting the whole > ecosystem to agree to build the codec before there is any use use of it, > that includes chip set vendors, mobile handsets, conference bridges, and > yes, even browsers. So help break the chicken / egg problem of who goes > first by shipping it early and often. > > Putting it in firefox would be the opposite of agility for codec > developement. Those extra 5 million lines of code don't exactly speed up > iteration. > > We could land snapshots in Firefox, behind a pref that's default-enabled > only on Nightly and Aurora, if that would really help adoption mindshare > and integration testing before the codec stablizes. > > Right now the format changes often enough you'd have to make an effort > to find the corresponding encoder to create files it could play. Someone > could provide a page with references and demo files to ameliorate that. > > > While we are on the topic, why not add in all the codecs that can easily > be added and don't have IPR problems. > > Format proliferation leads to maintenance nightmares. There needs to be > a really good reason to ship a new format as part of the web platform. > Especially if you care about barrier to entry, like Mozilla does. > Ralph, I believe you and cullen are thinking along different lines. You're thinking of static files but he's thinking of WebRTC. Since WebRTC has codec negotiation, the issues you are raising here don't apply. You just offer "Daala version XXX" and the system automatically negotiates either that or VP8. -Ekr _______________________________________________ dev-media mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-media
