Hi CJ & Randell, 

Thanks for this valid and important suggestion. 
Will check with our legal team. 


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寄件者: "CJ Ku" <[email protected]> 
收件者: "Marco Chen" <[email protected]> 
副本: "Chris Pearce" <[email protected]>, "Blake Wu" <[email protected]>, 
"Evelyn Hung" <[email protected]>, [email protected], "Eric 
Chou" <[email protected]>, "Gary Chen" <[email protected]> 
寄件備份: 2014 4 月 2 星期三 上午 10:37:52 
主旨: Re: HLS support on B2G (Bug 577084 ) 

Randell send me a good question on IRC today, regard to license issue of it. 
I am not sure license/legal issues around HLS and MPEG2TS had been discussed 
before. If not, we may need to analysis it first before jump into 
implementation. 
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> 寄件者: "Marco Chen" <[email protected]> 
> 收件者: "Chris Pearce" <[email protected]> 
> 副本: "Blake Wu" <[email protected]>, "Evelyn Hung" <[email protected]>, 
> [email protected], "Eric Chou" 
> <[email protected]>, "Gary Chen" <[email protected]> 
> 寄件備份: 2014 4 月 1 星期二 下午 1:49:50 
> 主旨: Re: HLS support on B2G (Bug 577084 ) 
> 
> Hi Chris, 
> 
> Yes, that is an option and the comment on the bug also mentioned it. 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577084#c15 
> 
> > I don't know much about MPEG-TS or HLS. Someone would need to 
> > investigate whether a solution using JS libraries like the above would 
> > work. 
> 
> Yes, Gary Chen on the cc list is a Gaia developer and he will investigate how 
> to apply HLS on content layer. 
> 
> By the way, just to add a possible option. 
> If we have enough resource to support MPEG2-TS de-muxer in Gecko then what 
> else blocks this option? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
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> 
> 寄件者: "Chris Pearce" <[email protected]> 
> 收件者: "Marco Chen" <[email protected]>, [email protected] 
> 副本: "Blake Wu" <[email protected]>, "Evelyn Hung" <[email protected]>, "Eric 
> Chou" <[email protected]>, "Gary Chen" <[email protected]> 
> 寄件備份: 2014 4 月 1 星期二 下午 12:22:37 
> 主旨: Re: HLS support on B2G (Bug 577084 ) 
> 
> Can partners use JS libraries like https://github.com/RReverser/mpegts 
> to convert MPEG-TS into MP4, for playback via MSE? 
> 
> If so, we would not need to implement anything we're not already 
> planning to implement. 
> 
> I don't know much about MPEG-TS or HLS. Someone would need to 
> investigate whether a solution using JS libraries like the above would work. 
> 
> 
> Chris P. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/1/2014 4:07 PM, Marco Chen wrote: 
> > (move from small group to public channel) 
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > Why: 
> > 1. The team belonged to stream 3 tried to bring more device categories into 
> > Web Platform (FxOS) and candidates like TV/Set-Top Box/chromecast need HLS 
> > to enrich their contents. 
> > 2. Mozilla is on going to support MPEG-Dash (public standard) but in the 
> > current market, there are still many content providers used HLS. 
> > 
> > How: 
> > 1. Thanks for the MSE, the rough idea is to implement HLS protocol on top 
> > of MSE. (Thanks for the consultant from Chris Double) 
> > 2. According to HLS using MPEG2-TS, we may consider to support MPEG2-TS 
> > de-muxer in Gecko or transform to MP4 container on content layer. 
> > 3. The PlatformDecoderModule on FxOS can support H.264 & AAC. 
> > 
> > What: 
> > 1. FxOS can support HLS and the device categories which relied on 
> > application of streaming video can jump in without this gap. 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > One question is on the "How - 2". 
> > Do FxOS support MPEG2-TS de-muxer in Gecko or transform to fragment MP4 
> > format? 
> > 
> > May I know any suggestion? And also welcome for any feedback. 
> > 
> > Sincerely yours. 
> > 
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> > 
> > 寄件者: "Chris Double" <[email protected]> 
> > 收件者: "CJ Ku" <[email protected]> 
> > 副本: "Matthew Gregan" <[email protected]>, "Taiwan Engineer Managers" 
> > <[email protected]>, "Vincent Chang" <[email protected]>, "Robert 
> > O'Callahan" <[email protected]>, "James Ho" <[email protected]> 
> > 寄件備份: 2014 3 月 17 星期一 下午 10:33:44 
> > 主旨: Re: HLS support on B2G 
> > 
> > DASH can be done at the application side using MSE. There are 
> > JavaScript libraries for this available already. They work, with some 
> > limitations, in Firefox nightly with MSE enabled. For example; 
> > 
> > <http://cd.pn/mse/webm/dash-player.html> 
> > 
> > Our implementation is still incomplete though so there is still work to be 
> > done. 
> > 
> > I don't know much about HLS myself but the MSE spec implies that HLS 
> > could be implemented in JS. I don't see any available libraries around 
> > for doing this though so I cannot say for certain. I would recommend 
> > the DASH approach since there are libraries for it and support is in 
> > Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 with Gecko based browsers coming soon. 
> > 
> > Matthew may be able to comment more on the HLS case but he is 
> > currently on leave so will probably not be able to immediately 
> > respond. 
> > 
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:47 PM, CJ Ku <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >> Hi Matthew/ Chris, 
> >> We got a request from vendor to have HLS support on B2G device. My 
> >> understanding is, With MSE(Media source extension) support, DASH or 
> >> HLS(HTTP live stream) can be done at application(js) side. Since you are 
> >> definitely more familiar with MSE than I, may I have your opinion here? 
> >> Thanks. 
> >> 
> >> ----- 原始郵件 ----- 
> >>> 寄件者: "James Ho" <[email protected]> 
> >>> 收件者: "Taiwan Engineer Managers" <[email protected]>, "Vincent 
> >>> Chang" <[email protected]> 
> >>> 寄件備份: 2014 3 月 17 星期一 下午 12:44:39 
> >>> 主旨: two questions re streaming protocol support 
> >>> 
> >>> 2 simple questions.. perhaps Vincent or CJ can answer? 
> >>> 
> >>> * What kind of streaming protocols does FxOS support today? 
> >>> 
> >>> * Does FxOS support HTTP Living Streaming (m3u8)? 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> James Ho 
> >>> Senior Director of Mobile Devices 
> >>> Mozilla Corporation 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> 
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