On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:10:55AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:15:20AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 02:03:18PM +1200, Chris Pearce wrote:
> > > On 5/17/2014 10:34 AM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >As far as I can tell from what has been said so far on the subject, we
> > > >may be opting to download the CDM blob unconditionally, and run it after
> > > >user interaction.
> > > >
> > > >As I understand it, the CDM blob is going to be hosted by Adobe. I can
> > > >see a privacy issue here. Or at least, I can see that people can be
> > > >unconfortable with this, and/or with the unconditional download of
> > > >proprietary code (however irrational that is, knowing how many non-free
> > > >blobs a browser downloads every day).
> > > 
> > > The UX has not been finalized yet, and it will likely involve people from
> > > UX, who don't read this list.
> > > 
> > > Firstly, the CDM will be sandboxed (using Chromium's sandbox, which uses
> > > seccomp-bpf on Linux I believe). So what the CDM can do to snoop on the
> > > users' computers is severely restricted.
> > > 
> > > Or is your concern that the browser will ping some Adobe server without 
> > > the
> > > user asking it to?
> > 
> > Yes. Essentially, Adobe would receive a ping from all Firefox users on a
> > recent version. That doesn't sound very appealing.
> > 
> > > Secondly, last I heard the plan was to XOR the downloaded blob with some
> > > string to make it non-executable until the user consents.
> > 
> > I'm not convinced that would satisfy the concerns of the people who
> > don't want to have anything to do with proprietary software. It's
> > completely irrational, as, like I said, a browser will already download
> > proprietary blobs all the time, but that's a point a lot of people are
> > already doing.
> 
> I hate to say I told you so, but here we are:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=769716
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525810
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1155499
> 
> And that's not even an actually non-free blob being downloaded.

Well, actually, fedora is making a case that it's non-free because of
the patent portfolio license restriction on non-commercial use.

Mike
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