Hi Tantek,

Sorry about calling 'adopted by W3C' when there's no clear evidence. I
filed https://github.com/w3c/largest-contentful-paint/issues/97 for
updating the 'Status of this document' and I also asked whether we should
move it away from `Editor's Draft` in the same issue.

(Just as a reference, it's adopted by WebPerfWG at
https://github.com/w3c/largest-contentful-paint/issues/87#issuecomment-1031605161)


I'll use the template correctly next time.

Thanks for pointing these issues out!

Sean





On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:52 PM Tantek Çelik <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 7:18 AM Sean Feng <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In Bug 1722322, I am going to prototype the LargestContentfulPaint API.
>>
>
> Thumbs up.
>
>
>> This API has been moved out of WICG and adopted by W3C already.
>>
>
> From the given link  https://w3c.github.io/largest-contentful-paint/ there
> is no actual indication nor evidence that it has been "adopted by W3C" in
> any meaning.
>
> Normally a draft (even an Editor's Draft) states in its "Status of this
> document" the name of the Working Group (link) that has adopted and is
> working on this document within the scope of its Charter (link).
>
> There’s no reference to any "Working Group" or "WG" in the draft.
>
> Could you file a GitHub issue on the draft requesting updating its Status
> section to explicitly name & link the Working Group working on it? (see
> related
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ExposureGuidelines#Standardization_requirements_for_prototypes
> which has been updated recently, so calling it out in particular as I
> expect others on dev-platform could use a reminder as well).
>
> Lastly, we should avoid labeling any Editor’s Draft as "adopted by W3C" as
> that indicates a degree of review & consensus that an Editor’s Draft does
> not have, per https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#editors-draft.
>
> *Summary*: The LargestContentfulPaint API enables web developers to
>> collect paint timing information on the largest painted element (determined
>> by a heuristic). We have found LargestContentfulPaint has the best
>> correlation with visual metrics, so we believe it is going to benefit the
>> web.
>>
>> *Bug*: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722322
>>
>> *Standard*: https://w3c.github.io/largest-contentful-paint/
>>
> Please use "*Specification:" *as in our template
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ExposureGuidelines#Intent_to_prototype.
>
> As much as most of us may understand the actual status of a spec is in its
> contents, labeling it a "Standard" may be misinterpreted as a spec being a
> lot more mature (and through standardization) than it actually is.
>
>
>> *Platform coverage*: all
>>
>> *Preference*: dom.enable_largest_contentful_paint
>>
>> *Other browsers*: Chrome has it already for a long time.
>>
>> *web-platform-tests*:
>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/master/largest-contentful-paint
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>
> Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this Sean!
>
> Tantek
>
>

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