On 2/17/23 11:27, Yoav Weiss wrote:
(re-replying from an address that's actually on this list)

Thanks Emilio for looping me in. I missed your comment <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1001078#c3> on the Chromium issue this was merged into. Apologies for that!

From a pure performance perspective, it seems like it'd be better for browsers to not block rendering and JS execution on such non-matching imports. But you're right that this would require a CSSOM behavior change that I didn't consider initially. I *think* that change could mean that the CSSImportRule is present, but its `styleSheet` is initially null. I'd expect that to be web compatible, but I agree this would require a spec change to allow for that behavior, as well as tests that verify that this is the case.

I agree in principle it'd be useful, though it's a bit sketchy to partially apply a stylesheet before its load event has fired, etc.

I'm curious about whether you have data to see if this is a common pattern (intuitively I'd expect conditional @import on inline style elements rather uncommon, given there's <link> too)...

Also, presumably we'd want this to work for `<link>` too, right? That is, <link rel="stylesheet" href="stuff.css">, where `stuff.css` has something like:

  @import url("print.css") print;

Seems like the same issue as inline style to me, and maybe a bit more common.

Anyways, it seems this discussion should happen somewhere in the HTML or CSS spec issue trackers :)

 -- Emilio

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:59 AM Emilio Cobos Álvarez Chromium has a similar scanner and similarly, I don't believe it takes @import media rules into account. So there may be a different explanation for the flakiness.

Chromium's scanner doesn't load conditional imports[1], we do. That explains why the Flakiness is Firefox-specific.

 -- Emilio

[1]: https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/renderer/core/html/parser/css_preload_scanner.cc;l=290;drc=4ced8912f6c8b32715984dd81e3f376a260ebab6




    We ignore the media list in this scanner, because @import url()
    media really is blocking the rendering regardless of media, so we
    need to load it asap anyways. There's a test
    
<https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/rev/9de332d5c8faac58dc1232b8a6383ce6cb1400f4/layout/style/test/gtest/ImportScannerTest.cpp#52>
 here for that.

    That explains that the test passes in some cases, depending on timing.

    That said, I'm not convinced the test is correct. The spec
    <https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#interactions-of-styling-and-scripting> 
doesn't mention @import's media list at all, and more importantly, @import can be 
mixed with other rules (or other imports) not covered by its media query, and the 
CSSOM doesn't have a concept for having a partially-loaded stylesheet. So if you have:

       @import url("print.css") print;
       div { color: green }

    It seems we'd need to block on the import. The right way for authors
    if they want a single @import that doesn't block rendering would be
    something like:

    <style media="print">
    @import url("foo");
    </style>

    Not sure how interoperably that works, but that should work per spec
    if my read is correct (and ~sure it works in Firefox). I might be
    missing something though?

    Cheers,

      -- Emilio

    On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:25 AM Yash Joshi <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hello Firefox devs,
        I am Yash Joshi, an undergrad student from India. I recently
        wrote my first web platform test which checks if browsers wait
        for delayed stylesheets with non matching Media Queries. Every
        Single browser I tested [chromium safari and firefox] has not
        yet implemented the said feature.
        I thus wrote a simple WPT which basically delays serving the
        stylesheet {with non matching MQ} by 1s and checks if browser
        continued JS execution in the meantime or waited for the
        stylesheet to load [test failed in this case] and all browsers
        fail test [expected] and firefox somehow passes this [which
        should not be the case].
        I am attaching relevant links and detailed context below for
        your reference. Pls let me know what am I missing here or if
        there is something wrong with my approach.
        Also, pls direct me to correct channels if this is not the right
        place to discuss this.
        Thanks a lot for your consideration.
        
-------------------------------------------------------------------Details------------------------------------------------------------

        Relevant Specification: Assigning property values, Cascading,
        and Inheritance (w3.org)
        <https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/cascade.html#at-import>__and CSS
        Cascading and Inheritance Level 5 (w3c.github.io)
        <https://w3c.github.io/csswg-drafts/css-cascade-5/#at-import>

        Live Test Link (wait for 10s to load): and check the console
        panel for wait time : :
        https://cheerful-capybara-92469b.netlify.app
        <https://cheerful-capybara-92469b.netlify.app/> [Source Code:
        Github Link for test code
        <https://github.com/yashjoshi-dotcom/WPT-test-for-non-matching-MQ-001>]

        WPT Status : web-platform-tests dashboard (wpt.fyi)
        
<https://wpt.fyi/results/css/mediaqueries/mq-non-matching-lazy-load.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned&view=subtest>

        Github Link: Add WPT to check that browser lazy loads
        non-matching Media Query by chromium-wpt-export-bot · Pull
        Request #38370 · web-platform-tests/wpt (github.com)
        <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/38370>
        Gerrit Link: Add WPT to check that browser lazy loads
        non-matching Media Query (4224891) ·
        <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4224891>] 
Used trickle pipe for delay of 1s.

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