On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:57 AM Tom Ritter <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Nick Alexander <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> No substantive comment on the meat of the proposal: it sounds like a
>> reasonable idea to me.
>>
>> The new telemetry probes respect the existing Telemetry opt-out settings.
>>> They can also be disabled individually by setting
>>> “toolkit.telemetry.user_characteristics_ping.opt-out” to true. The
>>> telemetry collection will not be sent from every client, it will be
>>> requested from a random sampling of users. Over time we may expand the
>>> collection in order to inform research for developing fingerprinting
>>> protections.
>>>
>>
>> I'm interested in this "random sampling of users", but I don't see
>> anything about this in the linked public Decision Brief.  In fact, my
>> reading of the Decision Brief says "all clients once, and then maybe again
>> in the future", but I could be wrong, or the approach may have evolved.
>> Can you link to more details?  I'm particularly interested in the technical
>> mechanism (client coin flips?) and the power calculations that go into
>> determining the sampling rate.
>>
>
> We didn't do anything special for that - we're just relying on Nimbus.
> The Decision Brief is supposed to convey that when we get to Release, we'll
> just do a small sample size initially ("Limit roll-out through Nimbus") but
> if it's unclear somewhere I can tweak it.  I am hopeful that we won't need
> to collect data from all clients on Release, but since we ultimately are
> looking to protect the most unique users I don't know for certain the point
> at which we will have a statistically significant sample size.  We do
> intend to do one collection (one ping/enrolled user) initially and
> eventually a follow-up to validate our efforts and measure how less
> fingerprintable our users are.
>

Since I understand how Nimbus enrolls users, that clarifies things.

Thanks!
Nick

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