On Fri, 17 Apr 2026 at 14:05, Emilio Cobos Álvarez <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I did think about doing something like that, but it's actually not so
> trivial, because `ownerGlobal` is a property on `EventTarget`, even
> though we're only changing the behavior of `Node` here.
>

Do non-node EventTargets already have the new behaviour? I can't think of
other EventTargets that can be adopted but I might be missing something.


> Also, there are some use cases for `ownerGlobal`, too, I believe. For
> example, creating derived objects like events to dispatch generally
> should use it:
>
>      node.dispatchEvent(new node.ownerGlobal.CustomEvent(...));
>

I don't fully understand why we would dispatch an event from a different
global into the new document, but if that's the case can we add an assert
that checks this?

I do understand that for the front-end, having a convenient way
> of getting to the global that the node is in (ownerDocGlobal, currently)
> is super handy and what 95+% of the code would want, tho...
>
> If the non-Node EventTarget.ownerGlobal usage for bindings is minimal,
> wdyt about renaming it from the bindings to something different / more
> obviously not-what-you-usually want (or removing it even, perhaps)?
>

If keeping the existing behaviour of `ownerGlobal` isn't an option then I
think we should switch to better named alternatives, perhaps
`currentGlobal` and `eventGlobal`.


>
> Thanks,
>
>   --Emilio
>
> On 4/17/26 2:09 PM, Dave Townsend wrote:
> > Hi Emilio. I'm concerned that this change in behaviour will cause subtle
> > bugs in existing or future code we write. In my mind and I'm sure in the
> > minds of many developers, `ownerGlobal` means the window the element is
> > in and that will be a hard perception to shift. Because it will now mean
> > something different only in rare cases we are likely to use the wrong
> > thing without noticing. Additionally the naming of `ownerGlobal` and
> > `ownerDocGlobal` makes it very unclear that they mean different things.
> >
> > Since `ownerGlobal` is not part of the web spec can we keep the same
> > behaviour for `ownerGlobal` and introduce a new property for the node's
> > original window?
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 at 23:22, 'Emilio Cobos Álvarez' via firefox-
> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <firefox-
> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hey,
> >
> >     Once I get bug 1470017 <https://bugzil.la/1470017> to stick, the
> >     `EventTarget.ownerGlobal` property on nodes will change behavior
> >     slightly.
> >
> >     This will allow fixing long-standing web components issues
> >     (prototypes getting lost on adopt) and some other subtler webcompat
> >     issues, like bug 2022763 <https://bugzil.la/2022763>.
> >
> >     In most cases it should be fine to keep using it in the front-end,
> >     but there are two subtle behavior changes that might need code to be
> >     adjusted:
> >
> >       * If you're dealing with nodes that might have been adopted,
> >         `ownerGlobal` might point to the original window of the node,
> >         not the one that's currently in.
> >       * .ownerGlobal might also now return non-null a bit more often
> >         (after the docshell is gone).
> >
> >     If you need the old behavior, you can use the new
> >     `Node.ownerDocGlobal` property. I don't expect much fallout, and I
> >     want to proactively change some more code to use `ownerDocGlobal`
> >     (e.g. child actors almost always want to look at the window the node
> >     is in), but I thought it might be worth a PSA, reach out if you see
> >     issues that might be caused by it on the chrome.
> >
> >     Let me know if there are any questions.
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >       -- Emilio
> >
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