On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Brian Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Symantec just fired people for mis-issuing a google.com 1-day pre-cert:
> >
>
> By the way, Symantec didn't say "pre-cert," they said "certificates".
>

Well, a "pre-cert" is just a certificate with the poison extension in it.

--Richard



>
> Also, I we shouldn't be splitting hairs at the difference between
> pre-certificates and certificates as far as mis-issuance detection is
> concerned. If people think there is a meaningful (technical, legal, etc.)
> distinction between a pre-certificate being logged via CT and the
> corresponding certificate being logged in CT, then we should consider
> removing the pre-certificate mechanism from CT so that there's no doubts in
> that. My view is that there is no meaningful difference.
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
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