On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:55:17 -0700, Dave Cridland wrote:
> I absolutely agree; however I'd also suggest that the point is moot.
> The question isn't whether or not people should have known, or even
> did know, that StartCom's business model is based around charging fees
> for revocations.
> 
> It doesn't matter whether anyone thinks this is fair or not - I think
> it's a dangerous business practise, and I'm surprised that it's
> considered in line with §2 of Mozilla's CA Certificate Maintenance
> Policy, but that again is largely irrelevant.
> 

Given that Mozilla no longer checks CRLs anyway, the discussion in
general may be largely irrelevant:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=867465#c12

OCSP is still alive and kicking, but it has some pretty notable issues
regarding how easy it is to make it soft-fail:
https://www.imperialviolet.org/2012/02/05/crlsets.html

In light of all of this, removal of the CA from Mozilla for this would
be a bit out of proportion. After all, if a certificate is revoked in
the forest and no one is around to watch, is it really revoked?


-- 
Jon
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