Hi Gary,

I'm sort of confused by your question.  We need a way to decide which 
certificates are valid.  How would we do that if not by having a list of 
trusted root CAs?  And if you need such a list, you need a policy for how to 
construct that list, even if it's just "defer to the platform" (which some 
other browsers do).

--Richard



On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Gary Mort <[email protected]> wrote:

> Looking over the Mozilla at 
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-group/certs/policy/
>  I can't really find a good clear reason why Mozilla would maintain and 
> distribute this list to begin with.
> 
> There are many implied reasons in the policies themselves, but those implied 
> reasons are often contradicted by individuals from Mozilla when discussing 
> the merits of including or removing various certificates.
> 
> Rather then continue to guess, I decided a more efficient method would be to 
> ask - especially as I feel that the initial assumptions on usage for a root 
> CA list have in fact been proven wrong over time - which means that current 
> policy is based on unwritten assumptions and implications which leads to 
> convoluted decisions which appear to lack internal logical consistency.
> 
> Please do not think this is criticism of the huge amount of work that has 
> gone into creating and maintaining this list.  I feel that it has served a 
> vital goal for quite a long time - I'm just not sure if the way it is 
> maintained today serves any practical goal in regards specifically to 
> browsing the web.
> 
> I would prefer public replies to this e-mail/posting rather then links to 
> some statement elsewhere.  Primarily to deal with the whole matter of 
> inference and implication.  IE if you provide a link to some RFC that may 
> answer the question - it does not mean that you are actually saying you agree 
> with everything in that RFC and any implications in such a document may be 
> interpreted differently by different parties.  So I am primarily interested 
> in what the perceived goals are being met by these policies and a root CA 
> file by those actually involved in implementing and crafting it.
> 
> Feel free to provide links to more detailed information in addition, I simply 
> request that you summarize what you are taking away from those documents.
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