On 9/17/14, 2:33 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On 2014-09-17 00:52, Kathleen Wilson wrote:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements#WebTrust_BR_Audit_Statement

https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements#ETSI_BR_Audit_Statement.2FCertificate


It's not clear that you need either of those 2.

Well, the terminology used by WebTrust and ETSI auditors is different.


Maybe we need to be
more explicit in saying which audit are acceptable for what?


Both ETSI TS 102 042 PTC-BR and WebTrust BR are accepted. So, I'm not sure what more can be said.



For the first it has:
The BR audit statement may be qualified and list BRs that the CA is not
yet in compliance with. The second BR audit (the following year) is
expected to confirm that the issues that were listed in the previous BR
audit have been resolved.

Shouldn't something like that also be in the 2nd?



I asked someone who is familiar with ETSI audits, and he said:
==
Well, webtrust and ETSI are different, both are used to evaluate CAs and with that evaluation create an audit report with the findings, but the term “qualified” is different.

All ETSI audits are qualified because are done by qualified (we used accredited which is a more accurate term) assessors and the auditors or assessors or auditing body (as you wish) have to follow the rules indicated in ISO 17065, or ISO 17021 or ISO 27006 to perform this audits and in these ISO standards is indicated how to perform the audit and what to do in case of the type of findings encountered.

So, if there are findings, minor ones, then the audit is passed, the auditor creates a positive report and gives you a certificate and between parties is established a Plan for correcting the findings within a timing and based on scheduled, and the auditor indicates if that procedure is correct and will check during the year if the actions has been done, and after a year then review again that those findings are correctly closed according to what has agreed.

If there a major findings or non conformities to the audit criteria, then depending on where the finding was encountered, the auditor can decide not to give the audit certificate, which means that has failed and will have to solve those deficiencies and apply again from the beginning, or can give no more than 3 months to solve them but giving the certificate, and if don´t do it will reject the certificate and remove from its DB.

So, basically we do the same than webtrust but with some slightly differences, more in the wording of the term qualified. So if you want to add a similar statement (which personally I won´t do it because is inherit to the ETSI audit) I would say:

“The BR audit report may list the BRs that the CA is not in compliance yet. The following audit is expected to confirm ….”
==

So, is it worthwhile to add that to the ETSI Audit section?

Kathleen


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