According to this clues, as I said in Zurich CABF meeting, China will also come 
out a trust list that request browser and OS support.
And other countries will come a list, then Browser and OS need to maintain 
hundreds trust list. 
Is it a good idea? 


Best Regards,

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: dev-security-policy 
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Behalf Of Ben Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:45 AM
To: Gervase Markham; [email protected]
Cc: Tom Ritter; Peter Kurrasch; Eric Mill; Richard Barnes
Subject: RE: Letter from US House of Representatives

Gerv,

Thanks.  I realize/think that this would require a separate root program.  If 
you think of it as a Venn diagram there would be Set A and Set B.  The user 
would then select A, B, A U B or A ∩ B.  From a U.S. Government perspective, I 
have been told that this is accomplished with a Certificate Validation Service 
(CVS) that is maintained by the government, but elsewhere in the world, there 
might be the need for multiple Mozilla-distributed trust lists instead of just 
one (Sets C, D, E, ...).  It's more work, but it avoids having to address your 
issues, I think. 

Cheers,

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Gervase Markham [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 10:29 AM
To: Ben Wilson; [email protected]
Cc: Eric Mill; Peter Kurrasch; Tom Ritter; Richard Barnes
Subject: Re: Letter from US House of Representatives

On 06/07/15 15:34, Ben Wilson wrote:
> =P7-TA-2014-0282> &language=EN&reference=P7-TA-2014-0282, I was asked 
> (by someone in the audience and not by anyone specifically 
> representing EU
> governments) to relay a message that some European supervisory bodies 
> would like browsers and OS providers to enable and support an 
> additional trust list or trust store, specific to the EU, for those 
> Trust Service Provider-CA entities that are accredited to issue digital 
> certificates in the EU.

Hi Ben,

I realise you are just passing on a message, so this should not be taken as 
shooting the messenger! I will outline briefly why this request would be, er, 
problematic:

* "specific to the EU" - how do we tell if a particular connection is going to 
a website in the EU? On-the-fly IP-based geolocation? This isn't really 
possible. Not all websites in EU country TLDs are EU-based, and many in e.g. 
.com are EU-based. There is no way to do this; the new CAs would have to be 
trusted universally for certs with whatever special marking the EU has in mind.

* This proposal would involve Mozilla delegating responsibility for who Firefox 
trusts to whoever makes the list of accredited EU TSPs. As we noted in our 
letter to the US committee, we value our transparent and open process for 
deciding who we trust, and our control of that process is very important to us.

Gerv

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