On 9/11/15 10:55 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
The same argument applies to email. Nobody wants to admit that Thunderbird
is dead, it is uncomfortable to know that the S/MIME handling in
Thunderbird has been unmaintained for at least half a decade, and it's a
little embarrassing to admit that the model we use for deciding which CAs
get the SSL trust bit works even less well for S/MIME and that basically
nobody cares about the S/MIME or code signing bits. But that's all true.
It's my professional opinion that if you actually care about S/MIME
security then it would be a mistake to use Thunderbird. (Sorry, people
volunteering to keep Thunderbird going.)


I still use Thunderbird, so I appreciate the volunteers who continue to support it!

Anyways, let's not discuss the Email trust bit in this particular discussion thread. I would like to keep this particular discussion focused on the policy proposal to remove the Code Signing trust bit.

We will have a separate discussion about the Email trust bit later when we talk about the following item:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:CertificatePolicyV2.3#General_Policy_Cleanup
-- (D27) Clarify which audit criteria are required depending on which trust bits are set. In particular, root certs with only the S/MIME trust bit set will have different audit criteria requirements than root certs with the Websites trust bit set.

When we have that discussion, please feel free to re-voice your opinion about completely removing the Email trust bit, and I can also clarify what checks we currently do when a CA asks for the Email trust bit.

Thanks,
Kathleen



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