That makes sense.

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[mailto:dev-security-policy-bounces+ben=digicert....@lists.mozilla.org] On 
Behalf Of Peter Bowen
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 12:50 PM
To: Kathleen Wilson <kwil...@mozilla.com>
Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Policy revision proposal - transitive disclosure exception

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Kathleen Wilson <kwil...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> On 2/6/16 11:45 AM, Peter Bowen wrote:
>>
>> The Mozilla CA Certificate policy says, in part:
>>
>> "8. All certificates that are capable of being used to issue new 
>> certificates, and which directly or transitively chain to a 
>> certificate included in Mozilla’s CA Certificate Program, MUST be 
>> operated in accordance with Mozilla’s CA Certificate Policy and MUST 
>> either be technically constrained or be publicly disclosed and 
>> audited.
>>
>> * A certificate is deemed as capable of being used to issue new 
>> certificates if it contains an X.509v3 basicConstraints extension, 
>> with the cA boolean set to true.
>> * These requirements include all cross-certified certificates which 
>> chain to a certificate that is included in Mozilla’s CA Certificate 
>> Program."
>>
>> I would propose that transitive disclosure not be required when the 
>> subject of the CA-certificate is also the subject of a certificate 
>> included directly in the Mozilla trust store.
>>
>
>
> I think we want such relationships to be clearly disclosed. In the 
> future, in the case that there is an incident that requires blocking a 
> particular CA-certificate, we would be able to use Salesforce to find 
> all the relationships with other CA-Certificates in the program.

I'm not proposing that they not be disclosed.  Consider this situation:

Example Corp Root CA is in the Mozilla trust store.
Contoso Corp Root CA is in the Mozilla trust store.

Example has two subordinates: Example Server CA and Example Client CA.
Contoso has two subordinates: Contoso CA - S1A and Contoso CA - C1B.
Example issues a cross certificate signed by Example Corp Root CA to Contoso 
Corp Root CA.

I'm proposing that Example has to disclose the Example Server CA, Example 
Client CA, and Contoso Corp Root CA certificates.  Contoso has to disclose the 
Contoso CA - S1A and Contoso CA - C1B certificates.
However Example would not have to separately disclose the Contoso CA - S1A and 
C1B certificates, even though they transitively chain to the Example Root.

Everything would be in Salesforce, but only one CA would be managing it 
Salesforce, rather that having two CAs separately report the same information.

Thanks,
Peter
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