On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 9:15:43 AM UTC-7, Rick Andrews wrote:
> On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 3:35:55 AM UTC-7, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 5:53:28 PM UTC-7, Matt Palmer wrote:
> > > It seems fairly dysfunctional if a single member of the CA/B Forum can
> > > prevent a ballot from going ahead.
> > 
> > To be clear: That is not the same as what I said. No single member can 
> > prevent a ballot going forward - but it can be enough to discourage someone 
> > from proposing/progressing on a ballot due to not feeling strongly enough.
> > 
> > You can see an original proposal raised on 
> > https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-March/006933.html (which I 
> > referred to earlier). There was interested in proposing a ballot, but that 
> > interest waned with Symantec's objections.
> 
> I wouldn't say I had objections; I merely pointed out that the BRs, as 
> written, prohibit a type of wildcard that Microsoft officially allows in TLS 
> certificates (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/258858), specifically, 
> w*.example.com and ww*.example.com Ideally, CAs and/or Microsoft would have 
> noticed that long ago and brought it up to be resolved before it was encoded 
> in the BRs. So I admit that we were negligent in not raising the issue 
> sooner, but I won't take full blame for it, because other CAs also issued 
> such certificates and Microsoft could have disclosed the conflict. Microsoft 
> has now expressed their opinion that they need to allow them 
> (https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007335.html).

Apologies; I mixed up two discussions. Microsoft hasn't yet expressed their 
opinion in favor of this. Please ignore that last link.
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