On Wednesday, 18 May 2016 16:22:39 UTC+1, Peter Bowen  wrote:
> Given that there is already the ICANN UDRP, shouldn't that be the
> venue to decide who is authorized to have what domain names?   Should
> CAs be responsible for making calls on who is authorized for a domain
> name?

The UDRP and the registrars only get to see the 2LD, whereas a CA is making an 
assertion about the entire name certified.

I would be a lot more comfortable just saying "No" here if Mozilla had mandated 
CT logging. With CT logging you can argue that figuring out if 
hsbc.customerhelp.example is "legitimate" is left as a problem for HSBC via log 
monitoring (either with their own monitor or more likely a service provider), 
as they please.

However with the current level of voluntary logging you have the same situation 
as CAA. The most scrupulous CAs log everything, some others selectively opt out 
for paying customers, and some log nothing whatsoever. A policy change, and in 
the longer term a commitment to require SCTs would alter that landscape. But 
until then it's easy to have some sympathy for the idea of "high risk" names as 
a check for CAs to perform to protect the ecosystem. More sympathy than for the 
idea of them inspecting a site's contents.

Also, FWIW I believe that even though I sometimes insist on expanding it to 
Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation that isn't legally correct. HSBC 
today doesn't stand for anything at all, the name of the globally famous bank 
is literally just HSBC.
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